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Old 12-10-08, 06:11 PM   #1
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Stance coils

Who here is rockin the stance coilovers on there track cars? what settings are you running front and rear?

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Old 12-10-08, 11:38 PM   #2
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Stance GR+, standard spring rates

i spent the first 3-4 events dialing in the settings i liked, iirc im rocking 9 clicks from softest in the front, and 7 clicks from softest in the back.
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Finalley someone with answers ! i bought my car with the stances already on it so should i turm the **** alll the **** all the way to the left and count 9 i n the front then 7 in then back

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Old 12-11-08, 09:55 AM   #4
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so should i turm the **** alll the **** all the way to the left and count 9 i n the front then 7 in then back
No, you should try for yourself... That's just HIS set-up in HIS specific FC, in HIS driving conditions.

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i'm Running Stnace GR+ Pro's on my FD they are alil on the stiff side on the street but i don't mind 12k 12k spring rates.
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No, you should try for yourself... That's just HIS set-up in HIS specific FC, in HIS driving conditions.

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True, but thats not why im asking what settings people are running. its a starting point to where i can start my own setup up. im next event is on 2 weeks and i dont have any pre-track time b4 that to start from 0 and work my way through all the setting to find what i prefer.
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I'm going GR+Pro cannot wait... I have head many good things about them -fir the price you cannot go wrong,
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True, but thats not why im asking what settings people are running. its a starting point to where i can start my own setup up. im next event is on 2 weeks and i dont have any pre-track time b4 that to start from 0 and work my way through all the setting to find what i prefer.
9 clicks on his dampeners is not going to be the same as 9 clicks on your dampeners. Hell, 9 clicks on your front right is not going to be the same as 9 clicks on your front left. You need to start from scratch and have them put on a dyno to balance them.
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9 clicks on his dampeners is not going to be the same as 9 clicks on your dampeners. Hell, 9 clicks on your front right is not going to be the same as 9 clicks on your front left. You need to start from scratch and have them put on a dyno to balance them.
True! I didn't even think of that! A few days back a friend of me who works at a racing team was telling me he put the new €8000,- KW coilovers he got for a customer in their dyno, and the difference on these new things was so big that there was more then just one click of difference.

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i think the setting should vary from track to track as well. I dont think there should be a "universal" track setting
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IMHO untill I've seen a shock dyno and have reports of them having good long term reliability then everything's crap.
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THE ADJUSTERS ON YOUR SHOCKS ALMOST CERTAINLY DO NOT DO WHAT YOU THINK THEY DO. Unless you have something high-end, like a Penske, and you've taken the time to clock the adjuster window on the shock dyno, the ***** on your shocks cannot be trusted to work. Most shocks of the same model DO NOT match each other on the same adjuster setting, and each click DOES NOT make the same change in force. Most shocks make very large changes per click near the "full hard" setting and make very little to no change near the "full soft" setting.
That being said lets look at what makes a shock good.

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

Lets take a look at the dampener of a popular coilover such as Ksport.

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http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123666252
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i think the setting should vary from track to track as well. I dont think there should be a "universal" track setting
Correct, track surface, smoothness, tightness and speed of linked turns and elevation changes would all require a different suspension tune.
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K-sport are garbage -but the above post is good info.

Only thing I like under 1500 is the stance.. they are a good product... good price... and serviceable in the US
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I have Kei Office, from my butt dyno I "think" they are ok but I need to put them on a dyno.
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K-sport are garbage -but the above post is good info.

Only thing I like under 1500 is the stance.. they are a good product... good price... and serviceable in the US
do you have experience with ksport?

ive had 3 cars with them on and all 3 cars rocked. i think unless you're planning on taking a run as a pro then any adjustment you can make should dial out the difference between dampers and youll be able to find something that suits you. i started at full hard on all corners and clicked back til it handled like i wanted it to. took about 3 events to dial the sus in on each car and i still tweak here and there. i couldnt even tell you where all my dampers are set and are probably all different but i can keep higher speed and longer drifts than most of the other guys that run around here with far less power. it just bothers me when someone says something is **** when they havent ever tried it. its like trying to feed a 4yr old new food. they know its gross and would rather die than eat it no matter what it is.
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This whole shock dyno is new to me. where can i find a shock dyno near my area in northern cali?
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