Havoc's - Aussie built wide body, 13B-RE powered by gtX3582
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Havoc's - Aussie built wide body, 13B-RE powered by gtX3582
G’day all.
I felt like making a bit of build thread here (as each time I link people to ausrotary they don’t have access.)
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This is just a bit of background to my car. I’m a big fan of pictures to tell the story
But I’ve had the car since about 1999 or so. It was a 1986 FC3S Series 4 NA
I know most ppl on here don't like wings, wide bodies, graphics etc etc. So really if you have nothing constructive to say... please don’t say it.
So Stage 1:
Naturally aspirated, nothing exciting. Engine ended up corroding itself out about 3 years after I bought it. Was really just a good excuse to change the engine to turbo.
So Stage 2:
Stock 13B (import engine) (really bad compression 65 front and 70 rear)
Turbo was a hi flow
FMIC
Microtech mt8
4x720 secondaries, 2x550 primaries (040 fuel pump)
3" exhaust all the way through - splits to 2x2.5 at the rear
I think I was pushing about 260 rwhp at the time at 14 psi, which was a huge step above the NA block. Going down to the drags ran a 13.4 and that was with intercooler pipes blowing off .
Also had a habit of doing diff mounts I think I killed about 3 in 6 months.
Stage 3:
I was living in London at the time (was there for about 2 years traveling and working) and still always had the bug. So every now and again I would buy **** for the FC on ebay, get it sent to my brother and he would put it in storage for me.
So at the time I bought a T04e with a 60-1 compressor,1.15 rear housing, Manifold WG etc and sent it to my bother to get it all installed.
Car then got dyno’ed for 340 rwhp at 14 psi (no porting) compression was **** and it lasted a hell of a thrashing ! Ended up killing 3 NA gear boxes before changing to a turbo box. Which has been fine ever since.
From that point I bought some rims and realised they wouldn’t fit without a wide body, so the saga of building a wide body FC started. I then got sponsored so the airbrushing then got introduced to advertise the panel beater.
Turbo b4 it was all rebuild
I felt like making a bit of build thread here (as each time I link people to ausrotary they don’t have access.)
The full thread is here AusRotary.com • Login
This is just a bit of background to my car. I’m a big fan of pictures to tell the story
But I’ve had the car since about 1999 or so. It was a 1986 FC3S Series 4 NA
I know most ppl on here don't like wings, wide bodies, graphics etc etc. So really if you have nothing constructive to say... please don’t say it.
So Stage 1:
Naturally aspirated, nothing exciting. Engine ended up corroding itself out about 3 years after I bought it. Was really just a good excuse to change the engine to turbo.
So Stage 2:
Stock 13B (import engine) (really bad compression 65 front and 70 rear)
Turbo was a hi flow
FMIC
Microtech mt8
4x720 secondaries, 2x550 primaries (040 fuel pump)
3" exhaust all the way through - splits to 2x2.5 at the rear
I think I was pushing about 260 rwhp at the time at 14 psi, which was a huge step above the NA block. Going down to the drags ran a 13.4 and that was with intercooler pipes blowing off .
Also had a habit of doing diff mounts I think I killed about 3 in 6 months.
Stage 3:
Basically just worked on the interior
Different seats (+ re-trimmed the rear one)
All new carpets
Sunroof all fixed
Custom centre console
Sound System:Different seats (+ re-trimmed the rear one)
All new carpets
Sunroof all fixed
Custom centre console
2x6.5 inch co-axial’s in each door
2x12's (crossfire BMF)
1x1000 D (1000 wrms for the subs)
1X602 (2x300 wrms each door)
Extra 1 Farrah Cap.. Was good for 143DB at 62hz
Stage 4:2x12's (crossfire BMF)
1x1000 D (1000 wrms for the subs)
1X602 (2x300 wrms each door)
Extra 1 Farrah Cap.. Was good for 143DB at 62hz
I was living in London at the time (was there for about 2 years traveling and working) and still always had the bug. So every now and again I would buy **** for the FC on ebay, get it sent to my brother and he would put it in storage for me.
So at the time I bought a T04e with a 60-1 compressor,1.15 rear housing, Manifold WG etc and sent it to my bother to get it all installed.
Car then got dyno’ed for 340 rwhp at 14 psi (no porting) compression was **** and it lasted a hell of a thrashing ! Ended up killing 3 NA gear boxes before changing to a turbo box. Which has been fine ever since.
From that point I bought some rims and realised they wouldn’t fit without a wide body, so the saga of building a wide body FC started. I then got sponsored so the airbrushing then got introduced to advertise the panel beater.
Turbo b4 it was all rebuild
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Stage 5:
Once getting the car back from panel and paint (3 years later…. ) id changed plans and decided to make the engine back match the rest of the panel work. So I:
• Pulled and sold the old engine
• Hid all the wiring (full rewire)
• Bought a 13B-RE
• Upgraded Fuel system
• Haltech E8
• M&W CDI ignition system
• Side mounts Alt
• Ceramic coat all the intake pipework.
• (reused the old turbo)
• Painted engine bay
• Installed it all back in.
• Davis Craig electric water pump and controller.
• All Defi sensors and gauges.
I then ran about like this for basically 2 years before the engine let go one day. I was running 350 rwhp at 12psi on a (20 yr old turbo)
Once getting the car back from panel and paint (3 years later…. ) id changed plans and decided to make the engine back match the rest of the panel work. So I:
• Pulled and sold the old engine
• Hid all the wiring (full rewire)
• Bought a 13B-RE
• Upgraded Fuel system
• Haltech E8
• M&W CDI ignition system
• Side mounts Alt
• Ceramic coat all the intake pipework.
• (reused the old turbo)
• Painted engine bay
• Installed it all back in.
• Davis Craig electric water pump and controller.
• All Defi sensors and gauges.
I then ran about like this for basically 2 years before the engine let go one day. I was running 350 rwhp at 12psi on a (20 yr old turbo)
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Stage 6:
So before the engine let go I decided to change the turbo.So I bought a gtX3582 from turboblown and waited to install it. The engine then let go So I rebuild the Cosmo donk. At the same time decided on.[LIST][*]Extreme rotary extended ports[*]Extreme rotary exhaust porting
After that I put on the turbo and had it send off to get a 4" dump put on and the water lines fittings welded on (I cant weld for ****)
So before the engine let go I decided to change the turbo.So I bought a gtX3582 from turboblown and waited to install it. The engine then let go So I rebuild the Cosmo donk. At the same time decided on.[LIST][*]Extreme rotary extended ports[*]Extreme rotary exhaust porting
- Goopy stud kit
- Goopy seals
- RA solid side seals
After that I put on the turbo and had it send off to get a 4" dump put on and the water lines fittings welded on (I cant weld for ****)
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Stage 7: yet to come
New seats.... Idea's ?
New rims. I really want something with deep dish and concave.
So yeh thats about it. Funny being able to post 8yrs of playing in 3 minutes
Cheers Anth
some vids on you tube under Mantrx7
New seats.... Idea's ?
New rims. I really want something with deep dish and concave.
So yeh thats about it. Funny being able to post 8yrs of playing in 3 minutes
Cheers Anth
some vids on you tube under Mantrx7
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hahaha will do Elliot, just hard to get the km's up on it when I can only really use it on weekend, but got some cruises lined up which should speed things up a bit !
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cruise it down to my end of town and i will hook up the PC and tweak that idle a little more ..
idle vacuums indicate its still on the rich side
methinks you may also just have to check if you need a second restricter for the turbo oil feed as your coping nearly 100 psi cold oil pressure
i have found that even stock old school bearing turbos can benefit from turning down the oil pressure by welding up the banjo bolt holes and drilling them to 2mm
i expect even a GT turbo ( which has an internal restricter AFAIK ) will like the extra knock down in oil pressure
tell tale will be that smoking while you have 90 + psi.. but none when the oil is warm and dropped to 40 psi
PS
if you look in the haltech forum you will find i have listed the oz e8 loom OMP colours and you should also try re-spading that connector accordingly and plugging it back in and seeing if the unit hunts
idle vacuums indicate its still on the rich side
methinks you may also just have to check if you need a second restricter for the turbo oil feed as your coping nearly 100 psi cold oil pressure
i have found that even stock old school bearing turbos can benefit from turning down the oil pressure by welding up the banjo bolt holes and drilling them to 2mm
i expect even a GT turbo ( which has an internal restricter AFAIK ) will like the extra knock down in oil pressure
tell tale will be that smoking while you have 90 + psi.. but none when the oil is warm and dropped to 40 psi
PS
if you look in the haltech forum you will find i have listed the oz e8 loom OMP colours and you should also try re-spading that connector accordingly and plugging it back in and seeing if the unit hunts
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Im to big for brides... bloody things are tiny. :P
Um its all good mate, I found that speedflow do a BBturbo restrictor that fits in the end of the -an4 fitting so its all done
yep another thing on the list of things to fix. Happy with the premix option for a while. Im going to pull the dash and play with the wiring a bit, so when I get round to that will fix up the EOMP wires.
PS: the cold start enrichement has been spot on (nice having a engine that finally start with one turn over) and did a bit to the post start enrichement and thats been ok as well.
I just need to find some : time + good road + NO COPS !
PS: the cold start enrichement has been spot on (nice having a engine that finally start with one turn over) and did a bit to the post start enrichement and thats been ok as well.
I just need to find some : time + good road + NO COPS !
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Thanks.
um not sure, our fuel here is **** compared to your US fuel. But since its now a rebuilt engine I would like to turn the boost up a bit to suit.
Im going to be happy with anything 400, and I bet my bottom dollar the curve will be so much fatter then my old turbo I cant wait.
um not sure, our fuel here is **** compared to your US fuel. But since its now a rebuilt engine I would like to turn the boost up a bit to suit.
Im going to be happy with anything 400, and I bet my bottom dollar the curve will be so much fatter then my old turbo I cant wait.
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One from the weekend. (did a good 500km in 2 days)
But Ive now got 900+ km on the car now, so its booked in for a tune next Tuesday.
Will keep everyone posted
-Anth
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Elliot, I only with I had your fuels down here you yanks get so much better results then us Aussies.
Will let you know the results
-Anth
Will let you know the results
-Anth