1996 Type RS Build Thread
#51
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It actually is , all H.K.S turbos are made my Garrett . I emailed H.K.S and they confirmed it . Its just been discontinued . It's a TO4E , they now only make the T04S and T04R and all are made by Garrett for HKS
#52
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So manifold and waste gate finally arrived on Friday . Today car is going in to get the manifold downpipe and screamer pipe amended . So the turbo sits next to the engine . Waste gate is a HKS 50 mm with 7 PSI spring
#55
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Whats the ETA on having that completed? Interested to see how it turns out
#56
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Had a bit of a setback. The welder only has time next week for the manifold . Hope that part is done by end of next week . The week after it will go to ROTRIX ( local rotary shop ) to fit the fuel pump injectors and fuel rail . After that it's dyno time . Also got two Sparco rev seats on its way that will be recovered in black leather and turquoise suede as well a. Takata 4 point harness .And I am getting a genuine set of TE37 soon 😠. So lots of work to do to get the car up and running for Rotor fest in November
#57
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What state of conversion is your car currently in? Does it still have all its twin turbo hoses/solenoids etc?
If its still got all its twin turbo stuff, then you should consider pulling all that stuff out before it goes to the shop for injectors etc.
Have you thought about the new turbos feed/return lines? I think the oil feed thread on the engine is m14x1.5
my car is also a White 96, Type RS
If its still got all its twin turbo stuff, then you should consider pulling all that stuff out before it goes to the shop for injectors etc.
Have you thought about the new turbos feed/return lines? I think the oil feed thread on the engine is m14x1.5
my car is also a White 96, Type RS
#58
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Yes the car still has its twins and solenoids In . I wanted to pull the twins but then I have to get the car there with a trailer ... The solenoids I am not worried about it's a series 7 , 30 mins and the black solenoid box is out . Also ordered me a set of RE Amemya copy wide body fenders (one of the local rotary tuners has a mold ) the rest of the KIT ( side skirts and rear fender arches ) I will buy end of the year as I am slowly running out of funding lol
#59
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My car is also a series 7 so I know exactly whats in there and whats involved.
I guess what I mean is, are you going to have them remove all the solenoids and stuff, and just install the injectors and leave all the solenoids / hosing out / disconnected?
You cant do the injectors without removing all the other stuff, and once you remove all that other stuff doing the injectors is very simple and easy and not something I would pay anyone to do. IMO its one of the most simple things on a single conversion. The FFE rails i used were literally one of the only pieces of my build that was literally bolt on. That and the pineapple pulley.
Basically i don't see the logic of sending the car away to have injectors etc installed, especially when you still have your solenoids and other junk in the car and your going single.
I see these as the options;
A. Your going to be paying them to remove all that stuff, install injectors (which is simple) and then either put back lots of stuff you wont use (more labour),
B. Pay them to install injectors and leave a big mess of stuff off / disconnected for you to figure out.
C. Now your not just paying them to do the injectors, your now paying them to do a "conversion" for you, leave the twin turbo stuff off, and "button" it up. There is lots to do. Decisions to be made, things to remove, nipples to block, new hoses to run etc etc. Expensive.
*D*. remove the "black box" etc etc yourself before you send it to get injectors, which you say takes 30 mins, then you will probably 100% understand the fuel system and no longer need to send it away. Save $$$$ buy parts. Even if you only take that crap off first and still send it away, you will still save $$$$
Im sorry i just think the way your going about this is not the most efficient use of limited resources.
Rip that stuff out and I would be more then happy to walk you though installing your new injectors etc with pictures or whatever, though im confident once you do you wont need anyone's help. and that stuff you have been reading about the fuel system will suddenly 100% make sense.
If you can remove a black box in 30 mins you can change injectors like eating cake
I guess what I mean is, are you going to have them remove all the solenoids and stuff, and just install the injectors and leave all the solenoids / hosing out / disconnected?
You cant do the injectors without removing all the other stuff, and once you remove all that other stuff doing the injectors is very simple and easy and not something I would pay anyone to do. IMO its one of the most simple things on a single conversion. The FFE rails i used were literally one of the only pieces of my build that was literally bolt on. That and the pineapple pulley.
Basically i don't see the logic of sending the car away to have injectors etc installed, especially when you still have your solenoids and other junk in the car and your going single.
I see these as the options;
A. Your going to be paying them to remove all that stuff, install injectors (which is simple) and then either put back lots of stuff you wont use (more labour),
B. Pay them to install injectors and leave a big mess of stuff off / disconnected for you to figure out.
C. Now your not just paying them to do the injectors, your now paying them to do a "conversion" for you, leave the twin turbo stuff off, and "button" it up. There is lots to do. Decisions to be made, things to remove, nipples to block, new hoses to run etc etc. Expensive.
*D*. remove the "black box" etc etc yourself before you send it to get injectors, which you say takes 30 mins, then you will probably 100% understand the fuel system and no longer need to send it away. Save $$$$ buy parts. Even if you only take that crap off first and still send it away, you will still save $$$$
Im sorry i just think the way your going about this is not the most efficient use of limited resources.
Rip that stuff out and I would be more then happy to walk you though installing your new injectors etc with pictures or whatever, though im confident once you do you wont need anyone's help. and that stuff you have been reading about the fuel system will suddenly 100% make sense.
If you can remove a black box in 30 mins you can change injectors like eating cake
Last edited by 96fd3s; 08-20-15 at 04:43 PM.
#60
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My car is also a series 7 so I know exactly whats in there and whats involved.
I guess what I mean is, are you going to have them remove all the solenoids and stuff, and just install the injectors and leave all the solenoids / hosing out / disconnected?
You cant do the injectors without removing all the other stuff, and once you remove all that other stuff doing the injectors is very simple and easy and not something I would pay anyone to do. IMO its one of the most simple things on a single conversion. The FFE rails i used were literally one of the only pieces of my build that was literally bolt on. That and the pineapple pulley.
Basically i don't see the logic of sending the car away to have injectors etc installed, especially when you still have your solenoids and other junk in the car and your going single.
I see these as the options;
A. Your going to be paying them to remove all that stuff, install injectors (which is simple) and then either put back lots of stuff you wont use (more labour),
B. Pay them to install injectors and leave a big mess of stuff off / disconnected for you to figure out.
C. Now your not just paying them to do the injectors, your now paying them to do a "conversion" for you, leave the twin turbo stuff off, and "button" it up. There is lots to do. Decisions to be made, things to remove, nipples to block, new hoses to run etc etc. Expensive.
*D*. remove the "black box" etc etc yourself before you send it to get injectors, which you say takes 30 mins, then you will probably 100% understand the fuel system and no longer need to send it away. Save $$$$ buy parts. Even if you only take that crap off first and still send it away, you will still save $$$$
Im sorry i just think the way your going about this is not the most efficient use of limited resources.
Rip that stuff out and I would be more then happy to walk you though installing your new injectors etc with pictures or whatever, though im confident once you do you wont need anyone's help. and that stuff you have been reading about the fuel system will suddenly 100% make sense.
If you can remove a black box in 30 mins you can change injectors like eating cake
I guess what I mean is, are you going to have them remove all the solenoids and stuff, and just install the injectors and leave all the solenoids / hosing out / disconnected?
You cant do the injectors without removing all the other stuff, and once you remove all that other stuff doing the injectors is very simple and easy and not something I would pay anyone to do. IMO its one of the most simple things on a single conversion. The FFE rails i used were literally one of the only pieces of my build that was literally bolt on. That and the pineapple pulley.
Basically i don't see the logic of sending the car away to have injectors etc installed, especially when you still have your solenoids and other junk in the car and your going single.
I see these as the options;
A. Your going to be paying them to remove all that stuff, install injectors (which is simple) and then either put back lots of stuff you wont use (more labour),
B. Pay them to install injectors and leave a big mess of stuff off / disconnected for you to figure out.
C. Now your not just paying them to do the injectors, your now paying them to do a "conversion" for you, leave the twin turbo stuff off, and "button" it up. There is lots to do. Decisions to be made, things to remove, nipples to block, new hoses to run etc etc. Expensive.
*D*. remove the "black box" etc etc yourself before you send it to get injectors, which you say takes 30 mins, then you will probably 100% understand the fuel system and no longer need to send it away. Save $$$$ buy parts. Even if you only take that crap off first and still send it away, you will still save $$$$
Im sorry i just think the way your going about this is not the most efficient use of limited resources.
Rip that stuff out and I would be more then happy to walk you though installing your new injectors etc with pictures or whatever, though im confident once you do you wont need anyone's help. and that stuff you have been reading about the fuel system will suddenly 100% make sense.
If you can remove a black box in 30 mins you can change injectors like eating cake
I don't really have a problem doing it myself from a technical point of view ( i read up and asked a lot of questions , so i am confident i could do it myself) .
The problem i have is time ( Divorced 3 Kids ) So effectively i only have every 2nd weekend without kids that . Thats the only time i can work on the car , but also need to make time to maintain my house , do the gardening and make time for my girlfriend . So my life is rather hectic at the moment .
Luckily my local rotary shop is arround the corner from my work (1km ) so i can go there and work on my car myself after work for and save some money ( the owner is a really nice guy ) . Another reason is that from my home its 50 km to my work and the rotary shop ,and i don't want to drive with a untuned car that far .
So i will bring the car there hopefully today , and take all the solenoid stuff out at his workshop on monday afternoon ( got the kids this weekend ) quickly after work myself .
The reason i don't take the twins off myself is that i would have to rent a car trailer and organize a car to tow the trailer ,to get the my FD to the welder and back which is about the same money my rotary shop will charge me to do everything there .
Still got plently stuff i will do myself like installing my Sparco Rev seats , Rims , widebody front fenders . I will be on a business trip to germany for 2 weeks in october and the car needs to be ready for Rotor Fest on the 7th of November . So time is running :-)
#65
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It's weekend . Will go to my tuner tomorrow to help stripping everything in the engine bay . Meanwhile my first seat arrived in the post today. It's pretty worn ,but For now I will fit it as is , but planning to completely recover once the second seat arrives . My side skirts and rear fender extensions should arrive somewhere next week .
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#72
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Just got news that my manifold and downpipe are finished , car should be back at Rotrix tomorrow , hope I can take pictures with the turbo on tomorrow .
#73
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Just went to my Tuner , car is finally back from the manifold making .
Manifold and Downpipe are already installed .
Next is : Compressor Housing clocking , Turbo Blanket , Injectors and Fuel rails , Pulleys , Fuel Pump ===> Then Tuning .
Unfortunately tomorrow is Public Holliday in South Africa .
Here the Progress so far :
Manifold and Downpipe are already installed .
Next is : Compressor Housing clocking , Turbo Blanket , Injectors and Fuel rails , Pulleys , Fuel Pump ===> Then Tuning .
Unfortunately tomorrow is Public Holliday in South Africa .
Here the Progress so far :