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Old 06-04-12, 05:46 AM
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quick question:

I have 17x9 wheels fitted to my car, 215/45/17 tyres, the tyre sits in side the guards but the rim lip sticks out a little, will this be a problem with getting a wof?

(That the tyre tread doesn't protrude beyond the bodywork)
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Hi there, I've recently purchased a FC convertible and it's dereg, due to insurance write off. Is there some how I can find out the notes for the incident? The vehicle is in undamaged complete state and needing re-vin. There are chassis clamp marks but no real obvious areas that have had work done. My father and I are both panelbeaters.

Basically I need to know if when I go to re-vin, will I be stung the engineers report fee? Or should I remove the clamp marks and underseal the whole car?

Thanks for your advice
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Originally Posted by AGRORX
quick question:

I have 17x9 wheels fitted to my car, 215/45/17 tyres, the tyre sits in side the guards but the rim lip sticks out a little, will this be a problem with getting a wof?

(That the tyre tread doesn't protrude beyond the bodywork)
copied from rota wheels nz face book page if you have a look in the comments on that post people have asked your very question and at the moment the smallest Tyre you can have on a 17x9 wheels is a 215 40 17 only if it is a falken Tyre

We have noticed lately a few people are quite worried about the police cracking down on stretched tyres...We do have a LEGAL solution for this and you'll be able to retain, if not stretch MORE than your current setup and still have your car
road legal. We have a good relationship with the Falken Tire distributors here in New Zealand and along with some mild persuasion have a spec sheet in which their tyres are rated to different width wheels. LEGALLY, LVV and Land Transport have stated with this sheet, WOF and Certification must adhere to the specifications listed by the tyre manufacturer. As a guideline, Falken's FK452 in a 225/35/18 is legally allowed to be stretched on to a 18x9.5" rim. If you have any queries or would like to obtain a copy of this sheet, please don't hesitate to ask or email info@rotawheels.co.nz We get a good price on Falken tyres too so can offer some wicked package deals!!

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HELLO

I need help with my FD RX7 import

I would like to get it registered but have no idea were to start.. any info & pointing me in the right direction will be great.

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Hey,
Can I get a WOF if i take out my rear seats in my series 4? Thought id better check before i went ahead and got rid of them pointless things. Thanks in advance .
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hi

If im going from 4 stud to 5 stud and changing all the hubs. Do i need to cert this?
Thanks for your time, Greg
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hi

Also, what is the legal decible level for street legal cars? and how is this measured?
ie: is there a certain rev level they get you to hold it at? and what sort of enviroment is the test done in, wide open spaces or in the confines of a testing station building?
Thanks Greg
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Hi Destro, awesome thread!!!!!! Wish I'd found it before going through the cert process.


Originally Posted by 13BR32
Also, what is the legal decible level for street legal cars? and how is this measured?
ie: is there a certain rev level they get you to hold it at? and what sort of enviroment is the test done in, wide open spaces or in the confines of a testing station building?
Thanks Greg
Decibel legal limit is 95db.
It is measured from 1 meter away from the exhaust tip at a 45 degree angle. With a rotary it's measured from idle to 4,500rpm.

They shouldn't be measuring it inside, it should be done outside in a wide open space.

Noise is measured by a decibel meter.

(I went through this 2 weeks ago)





I've just been through the cert process for my Bridgeport Turbo FD.
It's fairly straight forward and simple, and for all of you that are doing big builds, I suggest figuring out exactly what you're doing with a build and involving a certifier from day one to make sure you do everything right the 1st time.

Cheers,

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Destro, In relation to importing,

You say it will be hard to comply a series 8 through the normal way of bringing one over from Japan. What about been a personal import,

Say if I own a series 8 in Australia, want to bring it to New Zealand when I move there? would that make it any easier to have the car complied?
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You could bring it in under SIVs (Which is what a few people have done)
Special interest vehicles (Factsheet 44b) | NZ Transport Agency
(Fact Sheet is on right side of the page)

Destro would be answer the question on any other ways of bringing it in.
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Can everything from a crashed shell be transferred into a new non compilable/imported shell including the chassis/VIN numbers?
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Yes they can.
Is it legal? No.
Vin & Chassis numbers are for a specific vehicle only.

You're better off finding a reg on hold rolling body and doing the swap.
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Originally Posted by destro76
Probably not but 'maybe'. Bear with me and I'll explain.

The 2 most important standards that have to be met to comply a car to be able to be legally driven on our roads are 'Frontal Impact' and 'Emissions'

People often mistakenly think there is a rolling 20 year rule whereby cars over 20 years old can be complied without meeting these standards. This is false. The '20 year rule' only applies to the frontal impact standard. The emissions standard is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Every Japanese vehicle has what's called an 'Industry Model Code' (IMC) on the Vehicle Identification Plate. This plate is where you'll also find the sub model (Type-R, RS etc...), trim codes, paint codes etc... On FD RX7's this 'plate' comes in the form of a sticker applied to the right b pillar just below the door striker (the bracket the latch locks on).

The format the IMC takes on the FD (and most other Japanese vehicles) is a letter followed by a dash then the model code - 'FD3S' in the RX7's case. The IMC for the 92-approx 98 RX7's is 'E-FD3S' and the IMC for the S8 (99-02) is 'GF-FD3S'.

Why is all this important? Because the letters 'E' and 'GF' denote the emissions standard the vehicle complies with.

Up until 1998 there was no real emissions standard in Japan. After 1998 all new model Japanese cars (the RX7 was still in FD3S guise at this time so would have been exempt - the RX8 wasn't) cars had to comply with what's called the '1998 Japan idle standard' which was what the 'GF' denotes. There were many different combinations of these 2 letter codes that vehicle manufacturers used. This standard was superceded by the '01-02 idle standard' which was then superceded by the '05 idle standard'.

These standards became standards for compliance over here in the early 2000's. Up until January 1st 2008 you could import any 'GF' RX7 (or other Japanese car) and get it complied so long as it also complied with the Frontal Impact Standard. After January 1st 2008 the 01-02 idle standard came into effect for compliance; ie no more 'GF' cars could be complied or RX7's for that matter (the 13b REW although in production until 2002, only complied up to the 98 idle standard even after 1998).

At the beginning of this year the 05 idle standard came into effect. Now only cars that are roughly year 2005+ can legally be complied. That means no (up to 2005/6) STI's, no GTR's, no Altezza's and no Evo 7's. In fact you'll never be able to comply an older STI, any Altezza or Evo 7 for use in NZ ever again. The '05 standard is easy to spot - it consists of any 3 letters at the beginning of the IMC (not 2 as used previously).

These ever increasingly stringent emissions standards are one of the reasons (probably the biggest) why Mazda currently has no model for sale that uses a rotary for the first time since they first started producing rotary powered vehicles. The RX8 ceased production last year. It was no longer allowed for sale in the European Union due to the Renesis engine no longer complying with their tightening emissions rules - the final nail in its coffin.

The 'maybe' part of my answer comes in the form of the 'Special Interest Vehicle' (SIV) exemption which you have to apply for to LTNZ. Turns out the guys who loved their TVR's etc... were a bit pissed off that they could no longer import these vehicles so these respective cars clubs lobbied LTNZ and the SIV was born.

An SIV basically exempts a vehicle from having to comply with frontal impact, emissions and lhd standards. The RX7 'may' fit into this category. There is a limit 500 SIV exemptions in total given out each year. Each standard a vehicle doesn't comply with counts as one SIV. So if you were to get an SIV for an American car that complies with none of the standards and is lhd, that would equal 3 SIV's (that 500 would go down to 497 SIV's left for that year)

To have a vehicle identified as a special interest vehicle, the NZTA must deem it to have historic value or it must meet three of the following four requirements:

- The vehicle (or its make, model and submodel) is identified as being a collector's item in one of the following magazines or their respective websites – Australian classic car, Car and driver (US), Automobile (US), Motor (Australia), Motor trend (US), New Zealand autocar, New Zealand classic car, Road and track (US), Top gear (UK), Top gear NZ, Unique cars (Australia) or Wheels (Australia).

- The vehicle's make and model has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less.

- The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a two-door coupe or a convertible.

- The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a high-performance vehicle.

You will also have to have another car registered in your name (basically proof of a daily driver - SIV exemptions are intended for cars that get driven on a sunny weekend day not every day) and you wont be able to sell the vehicle for 5 years.

You'll probably have a hard time finding the FD in any of the magazines listed as part of the requirements at this time but it is and was manufactured as a 'two door coupe' and a 'high-performance vehicle' so that's 2 out of the 3 needed. Whether it was 'manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less I don't know but you'd net to get proof from Mazda themselves for this.

The 2 biggest problems with the SIV process regarding RX7's even if it does meet the above requirements are:

1. An SIV is granted only at LTNZ's discretion - they decide at the end of the day and can decline and give no reason for doing so. A Mustang or TVR would have a better chance probably than an RX7 (apart from maybe a Spirit R that they know wont be modified to hell or driven every day in order to retain its value) due to the 'boy racer' stigma attached to Japanese performance cars.

2. You have to supply proof of ownership as part of the application (this will be in the form of a Japanese Dereg. Certificate). In other words you have to buy the car then apply - you can't apply to see if they grant it then buy the car. Pretty big risk if you ask me.

I do know of a few Skyline GTR's that have come in under the SIV scheme though so it seems not all Japanese cars are tarred with the same brush.

The only other option to avoid all these headaches if your heart is set on importing a rotary is to import any pre-1990 RX7 such as an FC3S (S4-5). Any vehicle first registered in Japan prior to January 1st 1990 is exempt from both frontal impact and emissions rules. You don't even need an SIV. They are rare but I've seen a few excellent condition, unmolested, low mileage FC3S 7's imported by people that know the rules so they are out there.

Good luck,
Destro

Hi Destro,

Thats odd to hear, as I've been seriously contemplating importing an 92 FD into NZ. The thing is, I've made numerous calls, vtnz, etc, and they've all said that I would be able to import and comply it without any issues, and I wouldn't even need SIV !

Quite Confused.....
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Hi Destro,

As per Slipstream Steve's post above, I thought there was a 20 year rolling rule?
A good friend of mine has imported and complied a '91 GTR32 within the last month and had it done at a local compliance workshop with no issue?

(I do not know if he had it done under SIV or not).

Also, is it true that you can register a non compliable 'race car' (Pro 7) with an MSNZ Homologated cage if you have a log book and necessary documentation?
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Brake upgrade FD

Do I have to get my car certed if I upgrade the brakes from the standard 297mm to the 314mm brakes the RZ models had? Thanks in advance.
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Jaz fuel cell.

Hi Destro,

I'm in the process of installing a methanol system and will be running a jaz fuel cell for the water/meth mix, the only place this can go is in the boot part of the cabin (s4 rx7).

What do I need to do to make this legal?

Cheers.
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Back from the dead

Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm back from the dead. Life sometimes throws you a curve ball so unfortunately this sticky's been neglected for a long time (though the questions have still kept coming lol).

My sincerest apologies to those who've had their questions unanswered. I'll quickly run through the last 3 posts in case anyone finds themselves in the same situations as those posters...

1. The 20 year rule:

At the time of posting the answer to that particular question there was no "20 year rolling rule" in regards to emission standards. Frontal impact, yes, but not emission standards. It's the reason why TradeMe was full of R32 GTR's for sale as 'track cars'. LTNZ updates WOF/Compliance rules all the time (the last update was November last year). For example 15 years ago I owned BFMR 323 had an extremely loud exhaust, a TiAL 38mm gate dumped to atmosphere without a screamer pipe and uncaptive springs - all completely legal. 20 years ago we used to just cut them or you could get OE springs heated and compressed at Snells. Again, completely legal. And 2-3 years ago you couldn't comply anything younger than an '89 from Japan without it having to comply with emission standards. That has changed in the interim 2-3 years hence the confusion. LTNZ has aligned both frontal impact and emission standards with a '20 year rule' from the date of first registration anywhere.

2. Fitment of RZ brakes:

This does not require LVV Certification so long as the calipers, caliper brackets and rotors mount to OE mounting points. I have not been up close and personal with RZ FD's (though own a Type-RS which has 17" rotors as opposed to 16") but would assume - like the Type-RS - Mazda simply designed all the RZ brake components to fit on non RZ hub mounting points.

3. Water/Meth Injection:

Theoretically, Alky injection requires LVV Certification as it's a 'modification' as per the LTNZ definition that's not excluded from allowed modifications and if an inspector sees a fuel cell in the boot, he/she's going to assume it's an actual fuel cell for fuel and call for a cert anyway. Most probably won't even know what alky injection is or is used for so will fail you to be on the legally safe side (it's up to the owner to prove to the inspector they don't need a crt not the other way around). In practice, when going for a WOF, you could just disconnect the injection, remove the fuel cell then refit everything after the inspection.

If anyone has any other questions, post them up...
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Welcome back!

Wow, good to see you back.

Haven't logged in in years and the notification of this thread being updated has brought me back.


I'm currently building an FC track car (Ex Haynes Rotary workshop drag car).
I'm wondering if you can point me in the direction of what the requirements are to get a roll cage legal on the street are?
It's not a priority at this stage, but I would eventually like to have it street legal.

Cheers,
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I would also be interested in the cage rules concerning road cars...
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Originally Posted by Fangin
Wow, good to see you back.

Haven't logged in in years and the notification of this thread being updated has brought me back.


I'm currently building an FC track car (Ex Haynes Rotary workshop drag car).
I'm wondering if you can point me in the direction of what the requirements are to get a roll cage legal on the street are?
It's not a priority at this stage, but I would eventually like to have it street legal.

Cheers,
Thanks Fangin. It's been a while for me too.

As far as cages where WOF's are concerned, a cage is allowed so long as it's behind, following a plane extending upward, parallel to the back of the backrest on the rear-most seat, and it's fitted in such a way that the head restraint would provide protection from head contact with any bar section during a crash.

The above would be most relevant to half cages in an FC where the rear seats and seatbelts have been removed. You'd also have to apply to get the details of the vehicle changed (from 5 to 2 seats) and a vehicle class change.

If fitting a full roll cage there are only 2 options.

1. LVV Certification which takes into consideration passenger cell 'zones'. A bolt in cage from a reputable Japanese brand should be fine though it will most probably need to have high density foam that meets SFI specification 45.1 (or equivalent) fitted adjacent to any passenger seating area.

2. A Motorsport Authority Card. This will be a cheaper option than LVVC and probably the most relevant to you as you'll be tracking the vehicle (you're required to race the vehicle a certain number of times within a certain timeframe, maintain a logbook etc... in order to be eligible for a Motorsport Authority Card). So long as you have that card on you at all times when on the street and/or during WOF inspections, you'll be exempted from LTNZ rules relating to what modifications are listed on the card.

The application can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/n6ycdp6

The Motorsport NZ website can be found here: MotorSport New Zealand | The Governing Body For MotorSport In New Zealand

It would be best to contact them directly re requirements as I'm not aware of what scrutineers look for in order to pass certain modifications though I'm assuming FIA standards would be a given.

Hopre this helps,
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Thanks Destro,

Car already has full cage with foam padding, racetechs & harnesses (Ex Haynes Rotary Drag Car).
Plan on running a log book, and will definitely need to re register as a 2 seater as the cage would run through the rear seats.

I'll hit up the links and read in to it more.
I believe the old owner had a log book for the car.

On a side note, the motor is ready for assembly - running a Haynes built Semi PP with a Borg Warner bolted on.
Haynes was making 890whp with it but I'll be happy if we hit 600whp with the new set up

Cheers,

Mike
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Originally Posted by Fangin
Thanks Destro, Car already has full cage with foam padding, racetechs & harnesses (Ex Haynes Rotary Drag Car). Plan on running a log book, and will definitely need to re register as a 2 seater as the cage would run through the rear seats. I'll hit up the links and read in to it more. I believe the old owner had a log book for the car. On a side note, the motor is ready for assembly - running a Haynes built Semi PP with a Borg Warner bolted on. Haynes was making 890whp with it but I'll be happy if we hit 600whp with the new set up Cheers, Mike

Hey Mike, have you got any threads going with pics of the car so we can check it out?

How do the racetechs sit, you got plenty of Clearance with a helmet on? Are you using sliders under the sats?
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