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Old 02-22-12, 08:25 AM
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Am curious to know why your claiming to have used a fresh mix of e85 and not the e70 that one gets at the pump. Forgive my ignorance on the question but its just that around where I live (the upstate in sc) e85 is available in like every gas station. Is this such called e85 fuel not the correct fuel for someone doing a build on e85 set up?
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I can get Idemitsu rotary premix locally, does anyone know if that mixes well with e85?
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Its mixed E70 during the winter here. The gas I used was E85 or summer blend. I have a relative that runs that fueling center so I always ask before I fill up.
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Originally Posted by 864angel112
Am curious to know why your claiming to have used a fresh mix of e85 and not the e70 that one gets at the pump. Forgive my ignorance on the question but its just that around where I live (the upstate in sc) e85 is available in like every gas station. Is this such called e85 fuel not the correct fuel for someone doing a build on e85 set up?
I think what he is trying to say is that every time he fills up from a pump it's not always measured at 85% ethanol, you can test the amount of ethanol that you're putting in your car from the pump.
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Any experience with idemitsu using 85? Is it any good or is klotz the way to go with e85?
Thanks guys
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Originally Posted by mendozam
Any experience with idemitsu using 85? Is it any good or is klotz the way to go with e85?
Thanks guys
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ok, what would mix with pure Ethanol perfectly?
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great info here. helpful for one of my builds Im doing running e85.
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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx
No love for marvel mystery oil?
adding to that, the title shouldn't even have "oil" in it. yes it has consistency of oil but it hardly something you should rely on to lubricate high friction surfaces.

i feel like punching a baby whenever someone mentions using MMO as a premix, it's not and should never even be considered no matter what fuel you run.

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Old 11-05-14, 06:55 AM
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bumping this thread... bean oil/vegetable oil as premix has some drawbacks... is there anything that is being used that is a regular dino oil that has worked?

let's hear from you E85 guys.

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I always have been using benol from Klotz for the last 3 years on my starlet 13b turbo e85. I started using it with my FD for 2 months no issue. Never had to open one of my engines since I switched to e85 so seems to not give me any problems. Maybe soon will refresh the motor on the starlet but runs fine.
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I recently opened an engine that was running E85 and the super techniplate klotz. It was super gummy everywhere inside. I am curious if anyone else has seen this?
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Originally Posted by Turblown
I recently opened an engine that was running E85 and the super techniplate klotz. It was super gummy everywhere inside. I am curious if anyone else has seen this?
Super Techniplate has castor oil blended in. Castor oil gums up everything it touches.
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ive been using the castor oil and ethanol. i love the way it smells!!!

and yes it is sticky inside the engine..

use the cheap blue stuff with e85?
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talked w James/Klotz-Tech today. it appeared he knew his stuff re our rotaries and he suggested Super Techniplate. it has 20% bean oil and the remainder is a synthetic that is soluble w ethanol.

i had very little build up from 1/2 oz of Benol but other who are running more have had significant coating of their primary port walls.

i also checked out Redline. they have a new '2 Cycle Alcohol Oil" no caster.... synthetic. i have a high regard for their pricey products.

no gum...


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Originally Posted by howard coleman
talked w James/Klotz-Tech today. it appeared he knew his stuff re our rotaries and he suggested Super Techniplate. it has 20% bean oil and the remainder is a synthetic that is soluble w ethanol.

i had very little build up from 1/2 oz of Benol but other who are running more have had significant coating of their primary port walls.

i also checked out Redline. they have a new '2 Cycle Alcohol Oil" no caster.... synthetic. i have a high regard for their pricey products.

no gum...


howard
Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
Super Techniplate has castor oil blended in. Castor oil gums up everything it touches.
Originally Posted by Turblown
I recently opened an engine that was running E85 and the super techniplate klotz. It was super gummy everywhere inside. I am curious if anyone else has seen this?

Got any pics of what gummed up Elliot?
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What ratio premix do you suggest with super technique since its blended. I was using 1 ounce to a galloon for Klotz benol.
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Originally Posted by Smiley:)
ok, what would mix with pure Ethanol perfectly?
Hi you need to use ethanol oil like this one






Ethanol 2 stroke oil
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Originally Posted by Pedromarchett
Hi you need to use ethanol oil like this one






Ethanol 2 stroke oil
Thanks a lot!
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