What did they do to my boost???
03-22-04, 07:26 PM
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What did they do to my boost???
Ok, the other day when I was leaving to go to Texas for the Supra Nationals, I was driving up to my friends house and my clutch gave out. It was weird, the clutch just stuck to the floor while shifting from 4th to 5th.
I wasnt driving fast, just crusing in traffic. I couldn't do anything about it, so I had to have the car towed to Lowe's Automtove (Mike Lowe, the guy with the 8 second FB).
So while I was in Texas, I called home to see what was up. They said that my clutch line had burst. (I just had them put in a new clutch 3 months ago...hmmm connection?)
So they also said I was overboosting a little due to my intake and cat-back exhaust, and my parents told them to fix it. (since I was in Texas, I was having my dad keep in touch with Lowe's to get my car taken care of)
They said I was hitting 11psi and I was going to blow my motor. Uh at 11 psi? I don't even drive my car that hard. I know that over boosting will blow a motor, but only 1 psi with only motor two mods?
So pretty much they 'drilled out' my wastegate. Atleast thats what he told me. I always thought you could just replace a restrictor pill, but whatever...
Now, my car is acting weird:
From a stop, if I launch the car and floor it through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, I'm hitting a constant 8psi.
But, if I am crusing and I downshift and floor it, it stays at about 9 or 10 psi.
Should this be happening? What should I do? Should I take it back tomorrow and ask whats going on?
I wasnt driving fast, just crusing in traffic. I couldn't do anything about it, so I had to have the car towed to Lowe's Automtove (Mike Lowe, the guy with the 8 second FB).
So while I was in Texas, I called home to see what was up. They said that my clutch line had burst. (I just had them put in a new clutch 3 months ago...hmmm connection?)
So they also said I was overboosting a little due to my intake and cat-back exhaust, and my parents told them to fix it. (since I was in Texas, I was having my dad keep in touch with Lowe's to get my car taken care of)
They said I was hitting 11psi and I was going to blow my motor. Uh at 11 psi? I don't even drive my car that hard. I know that over boosting will blow a motor, but only 1 psi with only motor two mods?
So pretty much they 'drilled out' my wastegate. Atleast thats what he told me. I always thought you could just replace a restrictor pill, but whatever...
Now, my car is acting weird:
From a stop, if I launch the car and floor it through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, I'm hitting a constant 8psi.
But, if I am crusing and I downshift and floor it, it stays at about 9 or 10 psi.
Should this be happening? What should I do? Should I take it back tomorrow and ask whats going on?
03-22-04, 07:47 PM
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I would be pissed as hell... Overboosting 1 psi is bullshit. It was more than likely an inaccuate gauge. sounds like they did alot of work to your car, how much did they charge? If they drilled out your wastegate you cant reverse that... get a boost controller if your worried about that extra pound.
sorry to hear about the cluch
sorry to hear about the cluch
03-22-04, 07:53 PM
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Ehh don't be too mad.
If they drilled out your wastegate it should be a good thing. You now can avoid boost creep & run a mp as long as you got an ecu upgrade.
Get the controller and you will be fine.
If they drilled out your wastegate it should be a good thing. You now can avoid boost creep & run a mp as long as you got an ecu upgrade.
Get the controller and you will be fine.
03-22-04, 08:00 PM
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Porting a wastegate isn't cheap. I think RP quoted me 5 or 6 hours worth of labor.
Not necessary in my opinion if you're running stock ECU stock boost with only 2 mods.
Not necessary in my opinion if you're running stock ECU stock boost with only 2 mods.
03-22-04, 09:17 PM
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Ok lets see:
ok...thats what i sent it to the shop to have done. $100.... eh not too bad, but i could have done it myself. if i had known that was the problem
next:
$36.33 TO TIGHTEN A CLAMP!?!?
next:
I COULD HAVE PUT THAT $72.65 INTO A NEW WASTEGATE! 11psi isnt going to kill my motor, when i really dont even get on it that hard most of the time.
next:
You know what they charged $21.80 for? THIS:
A PIECE OF SHEET METAL SCREWED OVER THE HOLE IN THE INTERCOOLER DUCT. i actually had a cover for this sitting at home, that i just hadn't put in yet because i have been in and out of town for the past 3 weeks...
damnit. lowe's ripped me off.
Check clutch. Pedal goes to the floor. Diagnose leaking hose. Replace clutch slave hose.
Labor $72.65
Clutch slave hose $22.49
Dot 3 brake fluid $2.50
Labor $72.65
Clutch slave hose $22.49
Dot 3 brake fluid $2.50
next:
Checked coolant and found to be low. Pressure test system. Diagnose and repair leaking at upper hose clamp.
Labor $36.33
Labor $36.33
next:
Boost spikes to 11psi. Needs restrictor enlarged. R&R and enlarge.
Labor $72.65
Labor $72.65
next:
Fabricate and install air intake block off for the intercooler. Right side of Radiator needs to be trimmed for Air Flow to intake.
Labor $21.80
Labor $21.80
A PIECE OF SHEET METAL SCREWED OVER THE HOLE IN THE INTERCOOLER DUCT. i actually had a cover for this sitting at home, that i just hadn't put in yet because i have been in and out of town for the past 3 weeks...
damnit. lowe's ripped me off.
03-22-04, 09:26 PM
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HAHAH, that sucks. sorry to hear about your raping... and im not sure what they did to your wastegate for 72$ obviously not what i was thinking. Looks like they drilled out your restrictor pills in your boost lines. :/
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03-22-04, 10:38 PM
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man, lame shops chargin for nothin. well i guess they gotta make a livin! what is with the blocking off of the hole on top of the ic shroud? what was that supposed to do?
03-22-04, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by respecttheseven
man, lame shops chargin for nothin. well i guess they gotta make a livin! what is with the blocking off of the hole on top of the ic shroud? what was that supposed to do?
man, lame shops chargin for nothin. well i guess they gotta make a livin! what is with the blocking off of the hole on top of the ic shroud? what was that supposed to do?
And they drilled out your pill like XS said. Fix that and you'll have your boost back, or take it back to them and tell them that they made it too big.
03-22-04, 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by Fujikuro
yeah but you cant turn boost down with a boost controller. you can only turn boost up.
yeah but you cant turn boost down with a boost controller. you can only turn boost up.
sorry for the temporary hijack...
-edit- I see you have a '94 in which case you may have the restricted nipples instead of pills. So in that case you would have to drill out the nipple before you could lower the boost.
03-23-04, 12:57 AM
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1) Don't ever use them again.
2) Don't let someone else authorize repairs on your car. It is only a miracle that they didn't tell you your turbos needed replacing or something.
3) Find a good shop to take your FD to in the future. FDs aren't FBs and you got a whole lot of unnecessary work done.
4) If something is wrong and you aren't sure, ask here first.
5) Mod your car properly and you won't have to worry about things.
Basically they should have fixed the clutch and that is it. The only danger you would have from overboosting would be if it was freezing, and you were repeatedly hitting WOT. Then you might get some spikes at 14+, which might cause an issue. You lost a good chunk of change which could have gone towards a DP, or a portion of a Power FC.
2) Don't let someone else authorize repairs on your car. It is only a miracle that they didn't tell you your turbos needed replacing or something.
3) Find a good shop to take your FD to in the future. FDs aren't FBs and you got a whole lot of unnecessary work done.
4) If something is wrong and you aren't sure, ask here first.
5) Mod your car properly and you won't have to worry about things.
Basically they should have fixed the clutch and that is it. The only danger you would have from overboosting would be if it was freezing, and you were repeatedly hitting WOT. Then you might get some spikes at 14+, which might cause an issue. You lost a good chunk of change which could have gone towards a DP, or a portion of a Power FC.
03-23-04, 01:48 AM
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did you authorize them to fix all of this extra stuff on your car? you brought it in w/ a clutch problem, and came out with boost problems and a large bill. i dont think you should go back there again. 
03-23-04, 08:53 AM
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WHAT THE HELL!!!!
Update:
Ok, yesterday I only drove my car home after I picked it up. This morning, as I was driving up to school on the interstated, I checked my boost again and it's still low.
I called Mike Lowe and asked him about the low boost, and he said that I was supposed to be pushing 8psi. He talks to me like I have no idea what I'm talking about, and it seems he's trying to feed me alot of bullshit. I know what he did with my restrictor pill, yet he thinks he has to explain to me how the turbos and wastegate work like I'm in idiot or something.
So after telling him that I KNOW my car should push 10psi, and it has always pushed 10psi since I bought it, he finally said to bring the car in and they would swap out the restrictor pill. (they better not charge me)
When I got off the interstate, I came to a red light. As I came to a complete stop, I noticed the motor sitting at 1600 RPM's AT IDLE! WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON? I never had any problems w/ my motor or turbos before taking the car to Lowe's and getting it back yesterday.
The motor sits at about 1500 RPM then rev's its self up to about 1600 RPM and makes a farting noise before dropping back down to 1500 RPM.
I'm hoping the throttle idle is just stuck or something, but this is crazy.
I swear, they fucked up my car. Like said, I NEVER had any motor or turbo problems since I bought my car with 24k miles on it. I don't race the car and I don't get on it that often, so it's not like I'm beating the hell out of the motor.
Any ideas whats going on now? What should I tell Mike Lowe when I go in after class today?
Update:
Ok, yesterday I only drove my car home after I picked it up. This morning, as I was driving up to school on the interstated, I checked my boost again and it's still low.
I called Mike Lowe and asked him about the low boost, and he said that I was supposed to be pushing 8psi. He talks to me like I have no idea what I'm talking about, and it seems he's trying to feed me alot of bullshit. I know what he did with my restrictor pill, yet he thinks he has to explain to me how the turbos and wastegate work like I'm in idiot or something.
So after telling him that I KNOW my car should push 10psi, and it has always pushed 10psi since I bought it, he finally said to bring the car in and they would swap out the restrictor pill. (they better not charge me)
When I got off the interstate, I came to a red light. As I came to a complete stop, I noticed the motor sitting at 1600 RPM's AT IDLE! WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON? I never had any problems w/ my motor or turbos before taking the car to Lowe's and getting it back yesterday.
The motor sits at about 1500 RPM then rev's its self up to about 1600 RPM and makes a farting noise before dropping back down to 1500 RPM.
I'm hoping the throttle idle is just stuck or something, but this is crazy.
I swear, they fucked up my car. Like said, I NEVER had any motor or turbo problems since I bought my car with 24k miles on it. I don't race the car and I don't get on it that often, so it's not like I'm beating the hell out of the motor.
Any ideas whats going on now? What should I tell Mike Lowe when I go in after class today?