fd3s_rx7

iTrader: (13)

could you guys give some sites or info on how to do a non-sequence pattern for my FD.

I've been researching for a write up on how to do a no man or parallel on my sequencel pattern on Robs site,but The problem is, is that Rob. site isn't clearly stated on how to do it.

But when reading how to do it, it doesn't seem that hard at all,

So I decided to call CHECKPOINT here in Sacramento,
you guys know Chris???

Well he quoted me 8 HOURS to do the job. Which I think he is rediculous. So I just told him I'll think about it.

twinturboteddy

dood, work isn't free. You have to pay to play.

8 hours is about right.

grow up.

ejmack1

Ill do it for you if you pay my plain ticket to Sacramento from St Louis, and pay me 4 hours labor at 50 dollars an hour, this of course if you have all the tools needed for the job... (Basic Tool Set and ****)

cewrx7r1

iTrader: (2)

Besides removing and reinstalling the turbos:
(1)the turbo control gate must be removed from the exhaust manifold, and the resulting hole tapped and plugged.
(2)the pre-control gate must be welded open.
(3)the #2 exhaust port opening in the turbo housing. must have it's edges rounded off to reduce turbulence since the port size is way larger than the port in the exhaust manifold.
(4)the charge control valve in the back half of the "Y" pipe must be removed and the hole capped.
(5)the waste gate should be enlarged which also requires taking the turbos apart.

Plus a few more small thing.

Really a two day job doing it right.

fd3s_rx7

iTrader: (13)

I understand that you have to pay to play but,
8 hours to make turbos run parallel???

YEAH RIGHT!!!

twinturboteddy, If you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it.

ijneb

Fd3s_Rx7,
When asking a question on the forum, dont tell the ONE person who gives you a straight, from experience "If you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it"

If you dont like what he told you, take "cewrx7r1"'s advice- two days.

No wonder I never visit this forum anymore.

fd3s_rx7

iTrader: (13)

I know,

He shouldn't just say "GROW UP"

while he could explains it in better terms.

I've always look up to this forum, so I just don't want to get disrespected like that.

ejmack1

Im still down to do it! I wanna take a trip bac to sac

paw140

I'm not sure why everyone is being such an *** to you. Here is a place to start
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=rikki+non+seq

It took me a while to find that thread. For some reason I can't search for Dont Be A Rikki by username... it's like he's been completely removed from the forum or something.

MazdaRx7Racer4Life

It took me and my friend the whole day on another friends fd, but at the time we were not tat experienced, I bet I could breeze through it alot faster, but to do it right will take about 7-10 hours buddy, be ready (thats with some help) Good Luck, it feels great.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Keep in mind that the "poor man's"/"hack" non-seq is NOT the same as the full conversion.

kyle@insight

8 hours labor is about right.

MazdaRx7Racer4Life

and that is if you know what your doing, which most of us, when doing it for the first time, Don't. Take your time, if you rush, your gonna mess something up.

tbonerx7

Through your searches, I also hope you have concluded that going non-sequential is the way you want to go. There are pros and cons to both. If you decide to pay someone that much money for the non-sequential job, might as wellgo with a new single turbo. I don't know how California will treat emissions and inspecition if you decide on that.

DCrosby

He'd be choosing Poorly !!!
cal is pretty strict you either have to have the "Hookup" or make it look like it came that way !

Maybe since He's in Sacramento he can start by standing in front of the capitol building with a sign, if my **** don't smell, let me pass !

Seriously, if all we had to do is pass smog, life in Cali would be a lot easier, since it's not your "Bling" mods that pollute the air, it's the effect they have on emissions, plus it would encourage aftermarket vendors to make higher flowing greater efficiency products that perform as well as pollute less... instead, of putting "For OFF Roads use only in Ca." on the label and washing their hands I'll stop now before I blow a vein !

skunks

if you do it the poor man way (which is exactly the same thing as the full conversion although u dont get to port your waste gate) it should take you like 30 mins

i mean come on man, you just gotta cap 7 hoses/nipples and wire the tca open, how hard is it?
also, its removable easily. you should really think 2X about doing the full conversion before you have tested out how the poorman's conversions on your car first, i know of 2 guys which have hated the conversion because it was so laggy.

911GT2

As others have said, if you're concerned about the cost of the full non-seq, do the poor-mans. It can be just as effective, and is completely reversible if you decide you don't like it. (Not that anyone would...)

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

It is not the same. On the full conversion, the flapper doors are remove which has already shown an increase in airflow (thus some more power to be gained in the higher rpms where the boost will be).

The "hacked/poor man's/don't be a rikki" conversion does not have this benefit.

911GT2

True, but the poormans is pretty close. And for the time/cost difference between the two, it's worth the small amount of lag you'll gain, and small amount of power you'll lose, by still having the flapper doors in there.

The full non-seq is better I agree, but we're telling him to go with the poor-man's because he was complaining about the price of the, which is probably why Ryan and others pioneered the poormans.

DomFD3S

Honestly, I enjoy Teddy's answers.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

I'm not debating the price verses gain. However, he should be away that the shop is charging for the FULL conversion, not the hacked job which someone could do in a few hours.

While they are similar, there are differences and not just in price. I don't care which way he goes, I'm just correcting the wrong information posted in this thread.

AMRAAM4

I concur, I thoroughly enjoy both Teddy's messages and pics of his car

rynberg

Exactly. FWIW, my mechanic charges like $75 (45 minutes) to do the "poor-mans". Checkpoint is charging a fair amount.

fd3s_rx7

iTrader: (13)

Well I'm thinking:

People in here misunderstand my question.
The guy explains it just as what Skunk say:

He never say anything about the full conversion, such as ported wastegate and all that stuff. So I was just thinking 8 hours for just the poorman way is way too much!!

DomFD3S

So you're telling me that you would rather have a shop quote you a "hack job" price, rather than their quote for the "full and proper" job?

Next thing you know, you'll be on here complaining that their initial price quote was based on their "hack job", as opposed to the "full and proper" job.

What you should have done, is asked for a quote and then also asked what was included.

End of story.