stock Vin Red 93 R1 with 17k miles, deal?
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mileage and condition would be good things to include here... but my guess and instinct here, unless it is in absouletely immaculate condition with everything having been replaced that could rott or break and it has about 5k miles on it, its not worth the money. you can get much better deals than that. a warranty on an FD unless they will replace the engine when it breaks is a joke and 6 months? its not worth it.
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it is a stock Vin Red 93 R1 package with 17k original miles
I've seen $15k-$20k deals but they're higher mileage and modified.
I'm looking for a stock R1 and don't plan to modify except for reliability mods
I've seen $15k-$20k deals but they're higher mileage and modified.
I'm looking for a stock R1 and don't plan to modify except for reliability mods
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21K is, IMO too much. Do carfax, look the car over REAL good. Get the history on the car and talk to the previous owner(s) for care/repair records etc. Vacuum hose replacement? 5th gear synchro problems? Rear suspension bushings? Anything leaking? If it's really pristine stock, no problems and those miles....I'm not sure....but 21k sounds high.
If this is YOUR car...maybe 19k with a better warranty?
If this is YOUR car...maybe 19k with a better warranty?
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I think it depends how you're going to drive it. If you want to clean it up, not drive it too much, and enjoy the original 1993 stock R1 as your own personal collectible, then I think it may be what you want. That's kind of the way I like my RX-7. Take a look at it - if it's in truly pristine condition, I would pay 20k for that kind of car.
However, if you're going to daily drive it I say find another with a little more mileage for a lot less. The interior will peel, the engine will need water and vacuum hoses, the suspension bushings will die, the tranny will probably need a little work, etc. An extra 5 grand for the car w/ 17k will only put off these problems a little longer.
However, if you're going to daily drive it I say find another with a little more mileage for a lot less. The interior will peel, the engine will need water and vacuum hoses, the suspension bushings will die, the tranny will probably need a little work, etc. An extra 5 grand for the car w/ 17k will only put off these problems a little longer.
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Some people here are on crack. Getting an FD with less that 20K miles for that price is a steal from an originality/collectible standpoint.
However, for that same money you could get one with more mileage, that already has 10K worth of mods that give you better reliability and performance.
If you can stay away from the performance mod bug then you will be fine with that car. It won't squeek or rattle, and downpipe/radiator/ast/boost gauge/water gauge should run about 1000 dollars. You probably want to slap a profec B on it, because you might also do intake and cat back. The only problem is that you will spend lots of this time on this forum, and then start to think about replacing the IC. At that point you should also get a Power FC. Now you are approaching 5K in mods. That is the point where you should have gotten a different FD.
However, for that same money you could get one with more mileage, that already has 10K worth of mods that give you better reliability and performance.
If you can stay away from the performance mod bug then you will be fine with that car. It won't squeek or rattle, and downpipe/radiator/ast/boost gauge/water gauge should run about 1000 dollars. You probably want to slap a profec B on it, because you might also do intake and cat back. The only problem is that you will spend lots of this time on this forum, and then start to think about replacing the IC. At that point you should also get a Power FC. Now you are approaching 5K in mods. That is the point where you should have gotten a different FD.
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Originally posted by PVerdieck
Some people here are on crack. Getting an FD with less that 20K miles for that price is a steal from an originality/collectible standpoint.
Some people here are on crack. Getting an FD with less that 20K miles for that price is a steal from an originality/collectible standpoint.
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Originally posted by Sgtblue
21K is, IMO too much. Do carfax, look the car over REAL good. Get the history on the car and talk to the previous owner(s) for care/repair records etc. Vacuum hose replacement? 5th gear synchro problems? Rear suspension bushings? Anything leaking? If it's really pristine stock, no problems and those miles....I'm not sure....but 21k sounds high.
If this is YOUR car...maybe 19k with a better warranty?
21K is, IMO too much. Do carfax, look the car over REAL good. Get the history on the car and talk to the previous owner(s) for care/repair records etc. Vacuum hose replacement? 5th gear synchro problems? Rear suspension bushings? Anything leaking? If it's really pristine stock, no problems and those miles....I'm not sure....but 21k sounds high.
If this is YOUR car...maybe 19k with a better warranty?
Case and point: I just recently sold my girlfriends car. Carfax came up clean as a whistle.
Her car had been in 2 major accidents (totally just over 20k each) and been stolen one time. The only thing the carfax caught was that the car had 2 owners - her parents, then her.
IMHO, pretty worthless. Dont rely on carfax at all.
Have it checked out by a mechanic - have him look for tell tale signs of accidents/damage like missing VIN stickers on the body panels (usually means the panels were replaced), varyations in the paint.
Lastly, I am in this guys boat about keeping it stock as possible. I have a DP, AST, R1 front lip/spoiler, and 2 gauges. I have done some other random mods like the Disney fan mod, but nothing performance wise (as I just sold my pettit intake). 21k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will only depreciate in value. 17-19 seems to be fair market value.
lastly, if you do get it, make sure the warranty covers engine loss. if it does, do your damndest to blow up that engine before the warranty expires. Since it will go anyway, you may as well get a new one and start fresh while its FREE!
Just my .02
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Originally posted by revsteve
Not to pee in your cornflakes, but CARFAX is 100% worthless.... Dont rely on carfax at all. I am in this guys boat about keeping it stock as possible. 21k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will only depreciate in value. 17-19 seems to be fair market value. Steve
Not to pee in your cornflakes, but CARFAX is 100% worthless.... Dont rely on carfax at all. I am in this guys boat about keeping it stock as possible. 21k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will only depreciate in value. 17-19 seems to be fair market value. Steve
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Data point: I paid $22k for a VR R1 with 20k miles less than two years ago. It was in excellent condition and had aftermarket wheels, the PFS intercooler/intake setup, and a catback. It also came with the oem stuff.
To those that think that $21k for 17k miles is not a good deal, find me a similar car for less!
neit_jnf: don't forget to get the car checked out properly before you buy it. Don't asume that low miles = no problems. Use the information on this and other sites as a guide, but take it to a rorary shop if there's one close by. If it checks out, buy it!
To those that think that $21k for 17k miles is not a good deal, find me a similar car for less!
neit_jnf: don't forget to get the car checked out properly before you buy it. Don't asume that low miles = no problems. Use the information on this and other sites as a guide, but take it to a rorary shop if there's one close by. If it checks out, buy it!
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i paid 21k for my 1994 pep FD four yrs ago. It had 15k miles and was in pristine condition in and out. This was thru a dealer with only a 30 day warranty. I think i stole the car!
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Originally posted by kudo
what do yall think on this deal?
http://www.texastoys.com/Cars_Online..._Mazda_RX7.asp
what do yall think on this deal?
http://www.texastoys.com/Cars_Online..._Mazda_RX7.asp
if it doesnt have a price, does that mean its free? If its free its a good deal, if its more than 14k, its too much.
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Originally posted by kudo
what do yall think on this deal?
http://www.texastoys.com/Cars_Online..._Mazda_RX7.asp
what do yall think on this deal?
http://www.texastoys.com/Cars_Online..._Mazda_RX7.asp
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Jump on it. It's a good deal and worth every cent. I bought a 94 FD with 20k miles on it in December. I paid more than your dealer's asking price and I'm completely satisfied. You can't find many low mileage FDs around.