rzograbian

i just got my rotary aviation so called "unbreakable seals".

they advertize it as unbreakable because it is 700% more flexable and 85% stronger than the mazda 2mm's.

the price wasnt that bad. i got 6, 2 peice, 2mm apex seals, and 12 springs for $181.10 shipped using express mail(1-2 day).

here are the pics:


there are more pics on my website:

http://www.goldenautomart.com/RA%20seals.htm

(not 56k friendly)


tell me what you think!!!

rzograbian

btw, has anyone broken these already??

also, will it do a lot of damage when it breaks?

7-sins

Man that sounds sweet, I have my motor apart... so probably a good possibility for the rebuild. I wish someone had some feedback or experience.

As a general rule harder seals make more of a mess but these do sound interesting. Stock seals can still cause a good amount of damage as well.

rzograbian

yea i know but the thing i am most intrested in is if i can go single in these seals. there are people over 400 to the wheels on stock 2mm mazda seals so wont these be any good?

also, someone has experience with these. i think that he tried to blow them by detonating but they wouldnt break. i think that he tried 3 times but they didnt break

SPOautos

$181 for a full set of seals and springs??? What do you mean the price isnt bad....thats cheap as hell!!! The OEM seals are about $350+ JUST for the seals. If you'd bought that stuff from mazda it would be around $450

Have anyone else ran these? Whats the deal with "unbreakable". Nothing is unbreakable.

rzograbian- You need to make sure they dont have special clearancing needs. Some seals need to be clearanced to a different tolerance than spec cause when they get hot they expand more than the oem.

STEPHEN

7-sins

BTW, how much would you let that a/c panel go for

pp13bnos

iTrader: (1)

Is anyone running high boost on these yet? CJ

rzograbian

i sold that complete a long time ago. i think it was $100 shipped.

R-magic

I just bought a couple of sets and going to be installing them by next month or 2. I'll be running a large street port and running a T-78 with it. Lets see how they hold up!

SoloKK

Very interesting. Sounds like you should start a poll to see if anybody blew their seals.

rzograbian

i have researched it already. the only person that blew their motor with these seals was someone on this fourm but i dont remember his name. when he took the motor apart, he realized that it was a water seal that was pinched and nothing was wrong with the apex seals.

as i said, people have tried to blow these seals but it hasnt worked yet so we dont know what kind of damage these will do. thats kind of good and bad

RX7 RAGE

iTrader: (22)

Where did you buy these from???

rzograbian

it was from rotary aviation but it seems that it was under another business name. it was called "real world" something....

just go here: http://www.rotaryaviation.com/how_to_order.htm

give them a call with the number at the bottom of the page. talk to laura crook. tell her you heard about them from Roman but i think that they are sold out already...


just call that number and wait for the seals, their worth it.

jspecracer7

I'm STILL running these apex seals. I normally run the atkins 2mm 2piece design, but I had a hard time keeping motors together because they kept blowing up the atkins seals. The RA seals are STRONG. Scathcart on this forum and the NP forum actually did a test to see how strong they really are attaching a switch to the rear secondary injector to turn it off for the testing. He broke all 6 corner seals, and 5 of the 6 side deals, but only cracked ONE apex seal. CRACKED. Did not come apart.

I am VERY impressed with these seals. I thought I would be the first to break them(since I have a habit of blowing **** up) but looks like he beat me to it.

rzograbian

and r u running a single turbo?

jspecracer7

LMFAO....You could say that.

I run 19 psi on an HKS T-45s(same as the TA-45S)

rzograbian

wow, 19 lbs on a single.... thats cool. i was going to get the T04R later on and was wondering about the seals. now i know!

BigIslandSevens

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Jspecracer7....You make me laugh!! You remind me of one of my instructors at school( Dyno class) who always used to say.." If you want to make an omlette, you've got to break a few eggs." I like to see pioneers/people willing to blow up **** for the sake of everyone else that owns a rotary engine.!! Bravo, you deserve a pat on the back, as well as Scathcart. I am going to give a call in the morning for these seals.

jspecracer7

I like to blow **** up...what can I say? Of course, 6 engine's in one year did beat up my wallet quite a bit....glad I do all the work myself...if not I'd be REALLY poor then.

MillSpeed

iTrader: (1)

Do RA produce "unbreakable" side and corner seals aswell?

jspecracer7

No, they only sell apex seals.

MillSpeed

iTrader: (1)

Just ordered a set. Thought I'd get them while they're still cheap, apparently they're gonna put the price up soon. Just wondering where the real benefit is tho, if you get detonation the "breakable" side and corner seals are still gonna fail even if the "unbreakable" apex seals don't. The end result is still the same i.e. rebuild time!

jspecracer7

Yes, however apex seals are normally the FIRST to go. If your detonating badly enough to kill off corner/side seals, then you more issues than even these seals can fix.

vudoodoodoo

SWEET!

BATMAN

BATMAN going to get me a set.

This and later on anti-detonation device will make Supra guys stop laughing.