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Old 02-01-04, 03:42 PM
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Question LSD question

I was just wondering what models came with an LSD and year if it varies. Thanks.
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im fairly sure all fds came with lsd.
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Thats kind of what I was thinking but I wanted to make sure.
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All FD's came with a Torsen LSD. Please use the newbie stickie or search function.
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Is the stock Torsen LSD better or the Kazz two way LSD.?
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Originally posted by fd3s_rx7
Is the stock Torsen LSD better or the Kazz two way LSD.?
umm... NO

why do you think so many people who are making big horsepower numbers use the kaaz? Cuz its better, and actually gives better rwhp numbers.
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um...LSD is bad...m'kay
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ooooooooo

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What??? Come on now. I was just being bored. n00b...PHTZZHZHTHTHPPZZZZ...

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Re: ooooooooo

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5000 posts.........yea!

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Ok. That I'll buy.
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Originally posted by teamstealth
um...LSD is bad...m'kay
"uh huh, huh, huh. Uh huh huh, huh, he said LSD, uh huh, uh huh, huh, huh huh."
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Originally posted by fastcarfreak
umm... NO

why do you think so many people who are making big horsepower numbers use the kaaz? Cuz its better, and actually gives better rwhp numbers.
People making big horsepower switch to the Kaaz because the oem Torsen can't handle the power. However, one could argue that the oem Torsen is more pleasant to drive with on the street. There is no point upgrading until your Torsen is dead.

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When you got a lot of money betting on a race, you dont want to take any chances of that torsen biting the dust on take off. OOps there goes 500 dollars on top of needing a new differential. Now your 1300 dollars down instead of just replacing it to begin with for 800. if you dont race then i guess you can wait till its dead.
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hmmm...kazz or not to kazz

time to research


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I would do a S4 Diff. before Kazz. Just as strong without the noise.
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$800 is just for the KAAZ
not including labor parts etc....
and or R&P gears!!!!
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"better" is a subjective term. The Kaaz isn't clearly better in every way than the stock Torsen. The Kaaz does seem to be stonger, which is useful for drag-style launches. But the Torsen is smoother and the Torsen design has some other advantages as well (search the web if you want to read up).

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I don't trust the "torque sensing" aspect of it the stock diffs. I have a theory, not tested (except for the previous owner of my car hitting a telephone pole), that the stock diffs are not so good in the rain because of the mechanism that senses torque from the road differentiates power unevenly, over corrects?, when the pavement is wet. Correct me if I'm wrong

My Kaaz diff is cool but anoying at times. I probably would have gone with a T2 diff if I knew, at the time, it would fit.

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I think that just means you had your foot in the gas too much. The Torsen is really quite smooth in its operation compared to other designs. That would seem to make it less likely to surprise the driver. If you are used to an open diff or something, though, the fact that it actually routes a lot of torque to the outside wheel could be a surprise. Perhaps the high bias ratio would make it more likely to spin the outside wheel on a turn in the wet if you are supplying too much power for the amount of traction available. But I don't think the diff is the problem in that case.

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Just a theory. So far it is not holding any merit. I am trying to get to the bottom of so many FDs flying of the road, must be the foot on the gas thing.

Correction: "previous owner", not me, had his "foot on the gas to much". Under my ownership, my record has been stellar. Except for a few hit and runs, not me but people not seeing my car. Guess I will devise a theory on that too.
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I don't think it is necessarily a problem with the car. Buyers who want performance buy them (and other performance cars). Drivers of fast cars (on average) are probably more likely to take some risks in the name of driving enjoyment than, say, Prius drivers. And you have less time to realize you made a mistake in a fast car as well. Sometimes it doesn't work out and they crash.

I drove a T2 and an FD in the snow in Michigan for several years. There is nothing wrong with these cars in low traction sitations if you drive them sanely. If you expect more traction than is available and you aren't paying attention when you start to slip, they can get you into trouble quickly. But that is driver error, not a flaw in the car.

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I have the Kaaz and I'm not too thrilled about it. It's clunks when I take turns, which is extremely annoying. However, it has gotten much better since it has been installed. I have noticed that the more miles I put into the car the smoother it gets. My boy Ernie T had the Kaaz on his FD and loved it; it was extremely smooth on his FD. Also, if you drag race and making a good amount of hp you don't want the OEM LSD to break on you, it will cost you a lot of money to replace.
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Originally posted by fastcarfreak
When you got a lot of money betting on a race, you dont want to take any chances of that torsen biting the dust on take off. OOps there goes 500 dollars on top of needing a new differential. Now your 1300 dollars down instead of just replacing it to begin with for 800. if you dont race then i guess you can wait till its dead.
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