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Old 01-31-04, 03:48 AM
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Possible flooding?? HELP!!

My car does have 2 blown apex seals in the engine, but something weird happened. I was driving home from R&R to take my car back home so I could keep it in the garage untill I could afford the engine rebuild. Anyways, I was driving home and it was fine up until it boosted a little then it made a weird noise when boosting, it was like a fluttering like it was missing or not firing. I lost power and so I was pulling to the side of the freeway to see what was wrong and then it died on me, thank god I pulled off the freeway already. So from what I just told you, what do you think could be the problem? Is it possible to foul the plugs then flud it and have this happen? Just wondering, so any advice or thoughts are very very welcome! Thanks in advance, and lets all hope I can get this fixed ASAP!

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Old 01-31-04, 03:56 AM
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I'd imagine that since a couple of your apex seals are blown that when you start to boost you're getting some blow-by into the other chambers and is causing it to missfire. Obviously, from my supremely technical response , I'm no rotary mechanic. But I wouldn't drive the car with blown apex seals. You could do more damage to your engine.
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You've got two blown apex seals. Troubleshooting and diagnostics of flooding are pretty much pointless here.
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That sucks. You just finished upgrading the body and then the motor goes on ya. Damn.
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wanna fix it ???, rip it out and rebuild it .like clayne says pretty much pointless to try and figure out a blown engine anyway
Old 01-31-04, 11:27 PM
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well I need to figure it out cause I'm stuck and I need to get it home so it can sit in my damned garage. I have to fix it so that I can get it home. Yeah its blown and duh I shouldn't be driving on it but I really need to get it home right away otherwise its gona get towed in a parking lot!
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maybe you blew the 3rd seal.
Old 01-31-04, 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by wanklin
maybe you blew the 3rd seal.
my thoughts exactly
Old 02-01-04, 02:47 AM
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omg, someone actually is trying to trouble shoot a blowen engine, i cant believe someone is actually trying to boost on a blown engine!
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You probably just roasted the motor. You probably disentigrated the apex seals under boost which then destroyed your housing/s and rotor/s, depending if the two apex seals are on the same rotor or one bad apex on each rotor. You can tell when then engine is pulled by looking in the exhaust ports.

If so buy a reman and build it up.
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why can't you just tow the car home?
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If you proceed to drive the car you may do much more damage to the internals than if you just get it towed.
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why is everyone jumping on my case? The engines already gone and cannot be saved. I need a reman anyways. And the towing costs are way too expensive for where I am to my house. I wasn't trying to boost, can't I get help without being yelled at? For those that tried helping me thank you. Those that yelled at me maybe I shouldn't of asked here.
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find a friend w/ a AAA membership and get that puppy towed.

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Originally posted by RX7SpiritR
why is everyone jumping on my case? The engines already gone and cannot be saved. I need a reman anyways. And the towing costs are way too expensive for where I am to my house. I wasn't trying to boost, can't I get help without being yelled at? For those that tried helping me thank you. Those that yelled at me maybe I shouldn't of asked here.
You may have also ruined your turbos as the pieces of the apex seals will go through them...possibility. Tow the car.
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Yes this is all true. I know everything is messed up in that car now. I am going to tow it and shovel $6,000 into getting a reman and possible turbos. I am thinking of going single! But we will see how this all goes later. Thanks for the help guys, Let's just hope it can get towed with no problems because this whole week has been nothing but problems!
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This is an old thread but I just wanted to let everyone know that we found out what the problem was. My ecu for some reason fried on me, we replaced it after we got everything else in and now it runs great. So it wasn't the motor but it was the ecu that ultimately caused the starting problem. I'll take some pictures and everything later tomorrow after I wash it!
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oh ok, i was gonna tell you about a place out here by my house that would rebuilt it and port the intake and exhaust, replace all the seals and stuff for a little under 5k....but i dont know if you would wanna send it out here.
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There are two or three meanings to the word "gone".
One being the engine has lost compression on two of the chambers or blown coolant seals= still half *** drivable and can salvage motor parts.
Two being the engine does not start (no compression on most chambers front and rear rotor) or run but the engine parts can be saved.
Three being the motor is toast and no parts can be saved cause you forced broken apex seals into the housings or turbos.

It sounds like you were at the first stage of "gone" and now you are all the way gone. before you may have been able to save the rotor housing but now maybe not. This will cost you more money on the rebuild.
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maybe pieces of the apex seals blew out the exhaust and now you have no compression so the car died...
Old 09-22-04, 03:34 PM
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Found out that when they welded the car's new radiator support on at the body shop they never disconnected the ecu. Well it fried the ecu as a result, so if anyone ever gets something on their chasis welded make sure the ecu ground and everything is disconnected from the ecu. Just to let everyone know so no one goes through the same thing. I heard the car today and it sounds awsome, this new streetport sounds great! I also now have a PFS catback on it which sounds pretty nice but very loud.
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What ECU?
Old 09-22-04, 05:18 PM
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stock ecu. I'm running a stock ecu until the motor is broken in, then I'm swapping in the PFC and tuning it.
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