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Old 02-23-07, 12:51 AM
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Exclamation Gotta respect the FD...

Me being a noob and all, I was rather terrified when mashing the throttle in 1st after a hard rain at the end of a turn (yes I am that retarded ), massive oversteer made itself a guest in my car. So now I slide left and right and left again before regaining control. If the road hadn't been empty there would have been damage most probably. Moral of the story? Respect the FD. Yes I know this is obvious. Also, make sure to have teens play video games with cars so that they can avoid spinning, or just get them a FWD car. Or stability control.

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Old 02-23-07, 01:35 AM
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I don't think I've ever really WOT in 1st gear, most of the time I get wheel spin anyways and that's when it's dry. I remember losing the back end in the rain getting on it in 2nd gear, that was sort of scary.
Old 02-23-07, 02:11 AM
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I trust the FD!

Shoot, I spun out on the freeway because some idiot went on my lane and almost HIT me. (No one is going to hit my fd!)I steered away so quick and pulled it back but couldn't keep it straight (to much vibration) and then spun out. Even though i spun out, it would of been worst then if i didn't try to avoid the hit or if i had a different car. Great steering response!
Old 02-23-07, 02:22 AM
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Did that really sound like a good idea??? Respect the FD?: Sure, but that doesn't apply to blatantly dumb moves.

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Old 02-23-07, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboy333
Me being a noob and all, I was rather terrified when mashing the throttle in 1st after a hard rain at the end of a turn (yes I am that retarded ), massive oversteer made itself a guest in my car. So now I slide left and right and left again before regaining control. If the road hadn't been empty there would have been damage most probably. Moral of the story? Respect the FD. Yes I know this is obvious. Also, make sure to have teens play video games with cars so that they can avoid spinning, or just get them a FWD car. Or stability control.

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In this case I am sorry to agree you are a noob. Going so hard on the throttle in first is already quite risky in perfect dry condition. Now I guessed you figured out what can happen in the rain.

Be sure to rember this lesson well and yes always respect the FD.
Old 02-23-07, 02:36 AM
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Jeez bro.... your a noob to FDs and u have one at 15?!?..... not bashing on you or anything, but ****.

I was lurking on these forums for 2 years BEFORE I EVEN REGISTERED. Im pretty young... but know what im doing .. i can tell you im the farthest thing from a noob :].... atleast in the rotary/FD world.

Well... I wish you good luck... and please dont destroy your FD, please. Drive very concervitive for 6 months untill you can FEEL what the car is going to do and when its going to do it, as in exiting/entering corners and such.

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How about just be smart behind the wheel of a vehicle. Respect any car whether it is a Geo or a Mclaren or you could very easily die in it, take someone elses life, or all of the above.
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i won't even drive the fd in the rain....

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Old 02-23-07, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by preludesh2000
i won't even drive the fd in the rain....

brad
I second that.

Even in 3rd gear a FD with bolt ons is a very scary experience.
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How did you get a FD when youre 15 years old?!
Old 02-23-07, 07:23 AM
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respect RWD
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Originally Posted by flyboy333
Me being a noob and all, I was rather terrified when mashing the throttle in 1st after a hard rain at the end of a turn (yes I am that retarded ), massive oversteer made itself a guest in my car. So now I slide left and right and left again before regaining control. If the road hadn't been empty there would have been damage most probably. Moral of the story? Respect the FD. Yes I know this is obvious. Also, make sure to have teens play video games with cars so that they can avoid spinning, or just get them a FWD car. Or stability control.

Peace out, and dont die,
Corbin





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Corbin and all FD'rs out there,

Always remember - Life is a series of lessons... some you repeat until you learn them!!

You learned a valuable lesson that day...please don't repeat it.

Peace out and ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DIE!!

Steve
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Old 02-23-07, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dradon03
I second that.
+3, and WOW for having a FD at 15...that's a lot of car to control.
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In my opinion, your parents are completely oblivious and ignorant by allowing you to drive an FD at the age of 15, not to mention alone and in inclement weather. I can foresee an eventual bad ending to this story.....
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Oh stop Rich. Hopefully his parents know him, and think he will make good decisions. The decision above was just a learning experience as far as I can tell. The earlier you start driving, the better you will become. If you are a responsible kid, I have no problem with you getting an FD when you are 15. Wish him luck, give him advice, but don't foresee his death.
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Almost everyone needs a wake-up call before they become aware of what can happen in any circumstance. I know I've had a few (OK. I'm a slow learner...).

When I was younger, I drove like crazy, and it's a wonder I survived. I still drive fast and corner hard on the road, but at least most of the time, I take my surroundings into account. I do most of my "to-the-limit" driving on the track.

Hopefully, this was a wake-up for him, and he'll learn from it.

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Old 02-23-07, 08:53 AM
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The first weekend that I had my car, I was cruising around the island, just enjoying the car. It started to rain, very lightly, and the pavement was just a little damp. I went to pass a dumptruck, I wasnt ramming it out, gently downshifted into 2nd and started to smoothly accerlate from about 3k. As soon as I was on the middle of the road, I was instantly facing the other way. It happend so fast I almost didnt know that it had happend. Ive been driving relativly high power RWD cars since I was 13 or so, so Im no noob to the unexpected oversteer, but I just didnt even see it coming that time. Anyways, I fucked my car up good, hitting my beautiful MS01 hard enough to break the bead, breaking a toe link, and bending the **** out of a trailing arm. And creased my fender real good, all thanks to Okinawas giant curbs. Car stills scares me whenever I drive it in the rain. So, yes, respect the FD.
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Originally Posted by rx7twinturboboy
+3, and WOW for having a FD at 15...that's a lot of car to control.
I got my FD when i was 15... I did not get my liscense untill I was 16 and so I spent that year tearing the motor apart and working on it to learn how it worked etc. When i finally did get my liscense i rarely ever drove the car due to the fact that i got a job at a Rotary specialist shop building engines. i was constantly working on my FD so it was barley ever on the road. now 5 years later the car is finally complete, but i moved up to Philly for college and now it is sitting in a garage down in FL (no way in hell im driving the FD in city/snow).
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
The first weekend that I had my car, I was cruising around the island, just enjoying the car. It started to rain, very lightly, and the pavement was just a little damp. I went to pass a dumptruck, I wasnt ramming it out, gently downshifted into 2nd and started to smoothly accerlate from about 3k. As soon as I was on the middle of the road, I was instantly facing the other way. It happend so fast I almost didnt know that it had happend. Ive been driving relativly high power RWD cars since I was 13 or so, so Im no noob to the unexpected oversteer, but I just didnt even see it coming that time. Anyways, I fucked my car up good, hitting my beautiful MS01 hard enough to break the bead, breaking a toe link, and bending the **** out of a trailing arm. And creased my fender real good, all thanks to Okinawas giant curbs. Car stills scares me whenever I drive it in the rain. So, yes, respect the FD.
You probably were victim of a tar patch or paint stripe (much more slippery than basic asphalt when wet). Those are horrible in the rain!

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Old 02-23-07, 11:25 AM
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For me it's not so much the FD, but the friggin boost that freaks me out. As long as there is no boost it drives like my old 300zx Turbo, only with less torque. I've felt the occasional tire slippage in the back but not enough to have any concern. Handling with breaking traction has been more predictable in the FD than any other car I've driven. In the rain the car still out handles the wife's saturn, in terms of breaking and turning. No need to push in the rain.

As for driving in the rain, I have paid my dues riding an SV650 rain or shine in the great NW! I respect the rain. Especially if it hasn't rained in a few, and the oils in the road have built up, worst time to be out there is during the "first" rain. After the oils and crap have washed off the road, you can get incredible grip/traction. But fear the paint strips and tar snakes! I've learned to have incredible throttle control from riding a motorcycle in the rain. I am just as precise with the FD to do my best to control and predict what happens.



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Old 02-23-07, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWillieStyles
respect RWD

Respect RWD with LSD
My back end kind of kicked out on me on an onramp on a rainy night once, and i just barely tapped a little throttle. i never experienced that with my s13(open diff.)
15y/o + FD = DANGER. There's no way in Hell i would let my 15y/o drive any car like that.
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Yeahhh--some 15 year olds can be responsible with a car like the FD...but if I had to make a rule I'd say no to giving a car like this to a new driver. Don't push the car man--not until you figure out driving mechanics more. I'm sure you're a big fan of this car, but you have to be really responsible and have a great deal of control over certain urges you'll feel. Just because other people make it look like the FD has flawless neutral handling, doesn't mean that you can drive it like it does. If you feel some urge to flex your driving skills, don't, because your 15 and you won't have any at this point. Just be careful man, and learn to crawl before you walk, and to walk before you run.


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mate to be honest you gotta respect any car... they can become lethal in the wrong hands not just an FD; though i must say FD's are tail happy - had i few fish tailing incidents my self but at higher speeds...learn to keep the right foot under control all should be good.
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I got my FD 2 years ago right around when I turned 16, some kids can handle it, some can't, ultimately thats the parents choice. I daily drive my FD in rain/ice/sometimes snow, you HAVE to drive responsibily in those conditions but IMO that rules applys to any vehicle not just the FD. You got lucky and learn your lesson w/o any consequences, now just don't forget it I'm sure there will be plenty of nice days to enjoy the power of the car, don't blow it on a rainy day
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Originally Posted by flyboy333
Also, make sure to have teens play video games with cars so that they can avoid spinning, or just get them a FWD car. Or stability control.
IMO, all teens need to go to an AutoX school regardless of the drivetrain layout. Cars are becoming more powerful as time goes on and the standard driving tests are severely lacking in making sure new drivers can 'handle' vehicles.


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