fd3virgin

battery was dying and i tried to start her. now she won't start even with a new battery in there. i think she is flooded as all hell. back to the drawing board. the **** is broke more than it works. gotta love her. just venting.

fd3virgin

oh yeah, 96.00 usd for a miata battery. wtf. oh well. how easy is it to relocate the battery to the bins? only thing is i have all this custom stereo wiring i need to rewire when i relocate. kvn

skunks

just recharge your battery

P.S. why not try push starting her?

fd3virgin

i am afraid it might not start at all. the battery keeps dying all the time, so i got a new one instead.

santology

I just had the same problem and killed my battery twice. I didn't think that push starting it would be any different than cranking it. We had to use my buddie's mustang to get her up to speed but, sure as ****, she cranked right up.
thanks again to 911 GT2 for the fix

DaiOni

My car was flooded after starting it up after (well, during) the long cold winter here in western japan. Thanks to whoever posted the de-flooding technique (did a search) - you made my day!

skunks

oh, you should know not to pull start it as ti could come to life and rear end the tow car and totally kill it. good luck in anycase

mad_7tist

you have killed several batteries? have you loooked into this? drain, charging etc?

fd3s93

this is what i do and so far works great. crank the car up and you usually would... after cranking it twice and it doesnt start. ill stop for like 20-30 sec, then this time push the gas pedal down ..steping on the gas pedal will tell the computer to stop sending gas (since itll just flood even more) crank it up! give it a try. hope this helps.

mad_7tist

does it crank or just not start?

austinsFD

1. your car can't flood with gas if you have injectors cause the engine needs to be running for the injectors to be fully spraying but its a whole different story if you have a carb.

2. It sounds like your alternator is leaking power to somewhere else you should try to do a continuity test with a multimeter or something (im not a electrician but thats what you do when computers are not filtering power right and i don't see why it wouldn't work so a alternator.

good luck

911GT2

No problem buddy!

Anyhow, I can't understand why people don't push-start flooded cars. Why go through the trouble of pulling spark plugs, adding ATF fluid, etc. All you have to do is get the damn thing to start, and it'll burn off all of its excess fuel.

fd3virgin, if yours is indeed flooded, push-start it. But if you've drained multiple batteries, didn't you think to check the alternator and the rest of the charging system? Autozone will test alternators for free, bring it to them to ensure it's still working.

fd3virgin

it's flooded. i don't want to push start it b/c what if it doesn't start then i have to taket he spark plugs out in the cold. my original battery is dead. the car has seventy thousand miles on it. i guess it's about time.

mad_7tist

you dont need to remove the alt to test if it is working. put a voltmeter on the batt when it is running and ifit is about 14 v you are ok.

disconnect the neg from the batt put a volt meter from the neg batt terminal to the neg cable. put the meter in amp mode and with the car off see how many mili amps you are drawing. hope its miliamps. if it is high start pulling fuses till it goes away

vosko

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push starting will unflood any rotary

my FD NEVER flooded with the new motor and injectors.... it used to flood with coolant with the first motor but it still started everytime

fd3virgin

damn, took the plugs out. turned her over without the fuel pump relay. put the plugs back in and the bitch still won't start. are ngk 9s hard on cold start up. i am running 9's all around.

fd3virgin

bump

mad_7tist

so was it floded and are you getting any spark?

fd3virgin

i smelled a lot of gas and the sparkplugs are soaked with gas. i turned it over without the plugs in and the relay for the pump out. put the plugs back in and still won't start. so i let it sit over night with the plugs out and will try it after the super bowl. i might check the egi fuse also. if it is blown the car won't start right? thanks for the help guys. is it harder to start the car with nkg 9s all around. how would i check for spark ? crank it with the plugs plugged in but out of the engine. i might need an extra hand then. kvn

skunks

you can use a propane torch to dry out the spark plugs

BTW: a blown engine will run on 1 rotor

to check spark plug, just ground a wire and strip off like 3-5 inchs off the end and wrap it around the spark plug and have it kinda float im mid air as someone cranks her up after dissabling the fuel system. the wire should be thick enuf so as to support the sparkplug in mid air.

good luck dude

911GT2

I'm tellin you man, push start it. Even if the motor is blown it'll run enough to get it back into the garage.

fd3virgin

i will push start it when it gets warm. too much money in that thing to leave it sitting in the neighborhood. thanks. kvn

vosko

iTrader: (4)

if it flooded really bad it can take up to an hour to unflood. basically crank for 30 seconds at a time. until no gas comes out the tailpipe or plug holes. keep the charger on it. also pull fuel pump fuse of course. it can be a bitch but its your only choice if you don't want to push start it

wrankin

The funny thing is that I've flooded twice, but both times it was a fairly simple matter to get back going. Some fellow rotor-heads showed me the track. I took a small pump oil can with a nozzle and filled with ATF. I used a short section of vac hose to inject about 1 tablespool into the UIM via the nipple where my boost gauge is. Make sure the battery has a full charge. With the foot to the floor, it only took about three to four long cranks to make things catch. Let run for 10 minutes to blow out all the ATF. A fresh set of plugs afterwards didn't hurt much either. :-)

-bill

vosko

iTrader: (4)

atf is good if you like smokescreens. he is in a garage remember. he won't be able to see an inch in front of him