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Old 12-21-16, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by h_turbo
How much would a set of these BNR stage 3 go for?
Retail is $2100 which is a steal for the performance and ease of bolt on. I sent you a pm.
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Impressive assuming the dyno was set up correctly. I find it hard to believe that any car on twins can make that kind of power given the restrictions in the stock manifold and the fact that outside of the USA no one dynos that high with any twin setup. Still, IR Performance has a good reputation so I will trust the dyno is legit.

However, whilst the transition has been improved somewhat it must still be impossible to drive quickly at WOT:

Boost --> Nothing --> Boost --> Ditch.

Perhaps at slightly lower boost settings the transition is smoother and the car can be driven?

Also, what kind of solenoid upgrades, etc. are in place to allow the sequential system to survive nearly 20 PSI for more than a couple of months?

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Originally Posted by cib24
Impressive assuming the dyno was set up correctly. I find it hard to believe that any car on twins can make that kind of power given the restrictions in the stock manifold and the fact that outside of the USA no one dynos that high with any twin setup. Still, IR Performance has a good reputation so I will trust the dyno is legit.

However, whilst the transition has been improved somewhat it must still be impossible to drive quickly at WOT:

Boost --> Nothing --> Boost --> Ditch.

Perhaps at slightly lower boost settings the transition is smoother and the car can be driven?

Also, what kind of solenoid upgrades, etc. are in place to allow the sequential system to survive nearly 20 PSI for more than a couple of months?
Dyno is 6 months old, has recently been calibrated, and has been verified with other cars.

Believe it or not the car is very driveable and the transition is not nearly as noticeable as it looks on paper.

Solenoids are stock except an Apexi 3 port solenoid is being used for the wastegate in place of the stock one. The solenoids don't really fail from high boost. Its more from oil getting in them when people don't run a catch can and have excessive blow by. We have Dale Clark's viton check valves in place of the stock ones.
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Originally Posted by cib24
Impressive assuming the dyno was set up correctly. I find it hard to believe that any car on twins can make that kind of power given the restrictions in the stock manifold and the fact that outside of the USA no one dynos that high with any twin setup. Still, IR Performance has a good reputation so I will trust the dyno is legit.

However, whilst the transition has been improved somewhat it must still be impossible to drive quickly at WOT:

Boost --> Nothing --> Boost --> Ditch.

Perhaps at slightly lower boost settings the transition is smoother and the car can be driven?

Also, what kind of solenoid upgrades, etc. are in place to allow the sequential system to survive nearly 20 PSI for more than a couple of months?
Perhaps you could dyno on the mainline 1800 at enzo racing on Long Island. This would both verify the result and provide a nice view for those outside the USA, especially the Australians.
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Originally Posted by cib24
Impressive assuming the dyno was set up correctly. I find it hard to believe that any car on twins can make that kind of power given the restrictions in the stock manifold and the fact that outside of the USA no one dynos that high with any twin setup. Still, IR Performance has a good reputation so I will trust the dyno is legit.

However, whilst the transition has been improved somewhat it must still be impossible to drive quickly at WOT:

Boost --> Nothing --> Boost --> Ditch.

Perhaps at slightly lower boost settings the transition is smoother and the car can be driven?

Also, what kind of solenoid upgrades, etc. are in place to allow the sequential system to survive nearly 20 PSI for more than a couple of months?
You would think all of this but the car is a blast to drive. I've autoxed and tracked the cars for years with this setup (on lower boost - about 14psi). On the 19.5psi setting with the transition smoothed out you barely notice it at all - as we all know the right tuner (John Renna) can make the world of difference. I didn't think this was possible myself until John Renna and I went out street tuning to fix the transition.

From the drivers seat you only hear the exhaust note change and that's really it, you barely 'feel' the transition. The transition starts at 3900 RPM and is completed at 4200 RPM - that's only 300 RPM. So as you can see at WOT that happens very quickly.

I said it before and I'll say it again, this is not magic - this is what happens when you don't cut corners, are willing to spend money and not skimp on things like new gaskets, seals, and the time it takes to do it right. Obviously having the knowledge on HOW to do it right is also crucial.

Also having the right tuner, engine builder, shop support all plays a factor. All these things come into play and anyone who knows me, knows I am OCD and will only except what I feel is the best.

All these reasons are why my car was built at IRP. As well as taking the advice of Rich (my brother who built the motor), Ihor (owner of IRP), Brian Lee (Head Master Tech at IRP), and John Renna (IRP Tuner).
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Originally Posted by cymrex
Perhaps you could dyno on the mainline 1800 at enzo racing on Long Island. This would both verify the result and provide a nice view for those outside the USA, especially the Australians.
I saw you posting this on my other thread and pushing this pretty hard. You work for Enzo? lmao

I'll be upfront and honest, I wasn't even going to post a thread about my car. I built this car for myself and I am not about boasting or need trophies or stars from forum members/people to make me feel better or to make me feel like I did the right thing to my car.

My point in saying this is I like doing what I want to do and what makes sense for me/the car. The next step with the car is to try and get it on a DynoJet. Are their not set calculations you can do to figure out what the car would make on this 'mainline dyno'? Last time I went out to LI with my car I got rear-ended in traffic. You couldn't pay me enough to drive my FD out to LI.

The step after that is to drive and enjoy the car!
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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
Retail is $2100 which is a steal for the performance and ease of bolt on. I sent you a pm.
I saw it, I really like the price, I have been debating on either going single or stay twin, but I like the twin setup specially when this kind of power is achievable. I need to stop by your shop.
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Originally Posted by BridgePorted12A
I saw you posting this on my other thread and pushing this pretty hard. You work for Enzo? lmao

I'll be upfront and honest, I wasn't even going to post a thread about my car. I built this car for myself and I am not about boasting or need trophies or stars from forum members/people to make me feel better or to make me feel like I did the right thing to my car.

My point in saying this is I like doing what I want to do and what makes sense for me/the car. The next step with the car is to try and get it on a DynoJet. Are their not set calculations you can do to figure out what the car would make on this 'mainline dyno'? Last time I went out to LI with my car I got rear-ended in traffic. You couldn't pay me enough to drive my FD out to LI.

The step after that is to drive and enjoy the car!
Obviously your brother is well respected on this forum and had made a previous post specifically about enzo.

"I travelled out to North Bay Shore this past saturday to have Enzo tune my FD, and came away very happy with the experience. "

"His website for those looking for more information is www.Enzo-Racing.com."

https://www.rx7club.com/ne-rx-7-foru...island-898015/

Also I lived in Australia for 6 years and work with a UK company on a regular basis. In those markets whenever you mention BNR stage 3 twins you get the oil leak feedback and similar to what cib24 about "USA dyno numbers"

Just thought this was a chance to clear things up to a wider audience...
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Have you guys weighed the car?
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Originally Posted by BridgePorted12A
....On the 19.5psi setting with the transition smoothed out you barely notice it at all - as we all know the right tuner (John Renna) can make the world of difference. I didn't think this was possible myself until John Renna and I went out street tuning to fix the transition.

From the drivers seat you only hear the exhaust note change and that's really it, you barely 'feel' the transition. ....
This has been exactly my experience with transition tuning as well. I was able to get it so smooth that it was almost impossible to tell that it even occurred (much to my surprise). A very single-ish feel with better spool and a broad[er] powerband.

Congrats guys!
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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
These are impressive numbers. Congrats! May I ask how high were the egt at 19.5psi? I guess the injection is ameliorating the issue, but would be good to know, since I am also looking to run bnrs in the near future but would like to avoid the injection if possible.
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Originally Posted by Carpe_Diem_7
These are impressive numbers. Congrats! May I ask how high were the egt at 19.5psi? I guess the injection is ameliorating the issue, but would be good to know, since I am also looking to run bnrs in the near future but would like to avoid the injection if possible.
This particular car doesn't have an egt gauge. You won't get these numbers on pump gas without meth.
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In all honesty I tip my hat and say this car has the record, I did my 470whp on a dynojet with non-sequentials at 19psi with the BNR's. I did mid 430's on a Mustang dyno with only a slightly different setup but there's no way the car at the time could have made what you did.

For now I say you have the record on WHP on stock frame turbos sequential or not.
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Originally Posted by Ball joint
In all honesty I tip my hat and say this car has the record, I did my 470whp on a dynojet with non-sequentials at 19psi with the BNR's. I did mid 430's on a Mustang dyno with only a slightly different setup but there's no way the car at the time could have made what you did.

For now I say you have the record on WHP on stock frame turbos sequential or not.
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Originally Posted by Ball joint
In all honesty I tip my hat and say this car has the record, I did my 470whp on a dynojet with non-sequentials at 19psi with the BNR's. I did mid 430's on a Mustang dyno with only a slightly different setup but there's no way the car at the time could have made what you did.

For now I say you have the record on WHP on stock frame turbos sequential or not.
Any trips to the 1/4mile track?
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Any trips to the 1/4mile track?
The car is set up for the road course, so it won't do well. Suspension is way too stiff to get a decent launch.
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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
The car is set up for the road course, so it won't do well. Suspension is way too stiff to get a decent launch.
yea I had a huge issue launching my car with the dual clutch.
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