3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

AEM IGN-1A Mercury Marine ignition coil info/install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-08-13, 10:26 AM
  #176  
Senior Member

 
Vicoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Manassas
Posts: 434
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
The AEM instructions for the 30-2853 coils says to connect pin C to ground on the same cylinder head that the spark from that coil goes to.

Is it necessary/advisable to run individual grounds from each coil? Or can they be ganged together then split to connect at each rotor housing?
Old 05-09-13, 09:41 AM
  #177  
UA DRVN

iTrader: (78)
 
Max_Spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NoVA-20109
Posts: 3,200
Received 19 Likes on 16 Posts
As was mentioned, all the negative wires can be combined and grounded to one point on the rotor housing(s) The C terminal ground reference is for OEM application to sense a fault/misfire. Our systems are simple and just require 3 key elements, trigger/power/ground!
Old 05-09-13, 10:42 AM
  #178  
Senior Member

 
Vicoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Manassas
Posts: 434
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Thank you sir for your response.

I figured that doing it that way wouldn't cause any issues,

but you know what happens when you don't get all the info you can....
Old 06-10-13, 06:41 PM
  #179  
www.SakeBombGarage.com
RX7Club Vendor

iTrader: (17)
 
SakeBomb Garage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 2,174
Received 215 Likes on 123 Posts
We created an instructional video for our adapter harness customers, but would like to share it with the community Our video demonstrates how to effectively de-pin the OEM igniter connector using common items and can easily be done at home. The re-pinning procedure in the is specific to our harness, but the wire colors can be used as a reference. Enjoy!

Note: We take no responsibility for any damage our harm caused from using this video, use it at your own risk!

-Dan
Old 07-03-13, 01:32 PM
  #180  
www.SakeBombGarage.com
RX7Club Vendor

iTrader: (17)
 
SakeBomb Garage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 2,174
Received 215 Likes on 123 Posts
Hey everyone, here's a piece we've been working on for those of you looking for an universal coil mounting solution. There are a few options out there currently (including making your own setup, or our current cruise control location mount -> FD3S AEM Coil Upgrade - SakeBomb Garage ). This is however not an optimal solution for those with a RHD car (ABS unit is in the way), those wishing to keep cruise control, or those with other motor swaps requiring extra coils. Mounting coils to the AC bracket is an option if you are willing to delete AC or PS and make your own mounting provisions.






For those looking for something more straight forward we have designed a simple and effective no-compromise solution. These mounts also facilitate custom installations or mounting these coils on other chassis. Our universal coil mounts in 6061 Aluminum are in production now. We're just waiting at this point for CNC production run to finish.



Each mount holds two coils. They are modular and can connected back-to-back, side-to-side, both (in one large block), or mounted individually. Threaded provisions on the sides and back of the coil mount brackets allow for attachment to a secondary bracket for a non-flat location, or to be attached directly to a flat section of your chassis. We are also finishing up an FD specific sheet metal mount that sits low-down on the frame rail for 13b-20b applications.



IMG_8533_zpsf3ef96f8.jpg?t=1372708962

Name:  IMG_8530_zpsf6dc10ff.jpg
Views: 4811
Size:  46.8 KB




(back to back) http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps72d184a1.jpg

Last edited by SakeBomb Garage; 07-03-13 at 01:44 PM.
Old 07-10-13, 05:19 PM
  #181  
BOOSTED

iTrader: (1)
 
gavbey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 161
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Love this. I want some. I'm gonna buy some!
Old 08-18-13, 07:14 PM
  #182  
Full Member

 
rxsexen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sydney Australia
Posts: 207
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
How do these compare to Bosch hec 715, sorry for the noob question
Old 08-19-13, 11:25 AM
  #183  
www.lms-efi.com

iTrader: (27)
 
C. Ludwig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Floyds Knobs. IN
Posts: 5,235
Received 128 Likes on 84 Posts
That would depend on the capability of the ignitor you're using with the Bosch coils.
Old 08-21-13, 05:19 AM
  #184  
Full Member

 
rxsexen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sydney Australia
Posts: 207
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
I'm using the standard igniter
Old 08-21-13, 05:20 AM
  #185  
Full Member

 
rxsexen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sydney Australia
Posts: 207
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
I sent you a pm Ludwig but you didn't respond??
Old 02-07-14, 08:49 AM
  #186  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

iTrader: (17)
 
neit_jnf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Around
Posts: 3,902
Received 183 Likes on 132 Posts
so is anyone doing 30min - 1hr track sessions with these coils? let's hear some feedback!

street or dynos don't really stress the coils but high rpm for prolonged periods is another story.

I got a set since everybody praises them (hype train) but I did some more reading and found out we're getting the leading coils to about 90% duty cycle (60% in direct fire) at 8000 rpm and the trailings to 60% at the most recommended dwell settings.

I worry about burning leading coils during a track session in high rpm boost and maybe losing the engine! Comments?
Old 02-07-14, 12:33 PM
  #187  
Golf Cart Hooligan

iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by neit_jnf
so is anyone doing 30min - 1hr track sessions with these coils? let's hear some feedback!

street or dynos don't really stress the coils but high rpm for prolonged periods is another story.

I got a set since everybody praises them (hype train) but I did some more reading and found out we're getting the leading coils to about 90% duty cycle (60% in direct fire) at 8000 rpm and the trailings to 60% at the most recommended dwell settings.

I worry about burning leading coils during a track session in high rpm boost and maybe losing the engine! Comments?
I have done at least 4 track events with these coils now. Not a single issue. Personally, I have had great results with these.

What settings are you basing this 90% dwell figure on? I am assuming you are using the PFC since you are discussing waste spark. Did you look into the dwell settings that SBG provides? The way they have it setup they only dwell it up to 80% duty cycle on the leadings at 8000 RPM for PFC users. More gains could be had by running direct fire, but you would need another ECU for that.
Old 02-07-14, 12:48 PM
  #188  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

iTrader: (17)
 
neit_jnf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Around
Posts: 3,902
Received 183 Likes on 132 Posts
yes, PFC.

3.5 ms at 8000, maybe I should use 3.0
Old 02-07-14, 12:58 PM
  #189  
Golf Cart Hooligan

iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
If you are concerned about it, reduce the dwell. You only need enough dwell time to be able to light off the mixture. If your car can run well at 3.0 ms there is no need to run a larger dwell setting just for the sake of running more dwell. Once again, with direct fire you can run longer dwell settings with lower duty cycle which is nice. For you with waste spark you have less of a window to operate in. The 80% duty cycle is not a hard number, you can dwell higher as long as you are not sitting there at that duty cycle. There is no set amount of time you are "allowed" to run over 80% so the general practice is to keep it to a minimum whenever possible.

Even though you are running through high RPM's a lot more on track than you are on street, you are still not sitting in those RPM areas for long extended times unless you have a track with a long high speed straight.
Old 02-15-14, 06:06 PM
  #190  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Could someone please please PLEASE god forbid make a bracket for the FC so i can buy it? i dont have access to a welder and i just need to hurry up and get these damn things mounted.
Old 02-15-14, 09:22 PM
  #191  
www.lms-efi.com

iTrader: (27)
 
C. Ludwig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Floyds Knobs. IN
Posts: 5,235
Received 128 Likes on 84 Posts
E&J has a universal bracket.
Old 04-09-14, 09:37 PM
  #192  
Senior Member

 
Vicoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Manassas
Posts: 434
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Here's my version of the A/C Bracket location:





Used 4"x 2"x 1/4" aluminum angle to fab up two brackets

Thought it came out pretty good.

No welding though..... dang it
Old 04-09-14, 09:41 PM
  #193  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Flying_solo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Gurnee
Posts: 411
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That's pretty clever and looks great!
Old 05-31-14, 04:01 AM
  #194  
www.SakeBombGarage.com
RX7Club Vendor

iTrader: (17)
 
SakeBomb Garage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 2,174
Received 215 Likes on 123 Posts
Originally Posted by SirCygnus
Could someone please please PLEASE god forbid make a bracket for the FC so i can buy it? i dont have access to a welder and i just need to hurry up and get these damn things mounted.


We've had a few FC customers use our universal bracket with the AEM / ign-1a coils with great results. To make for a straight forward install we also offer a plug and play flying lead harness (everything is ready to go, you just hook up 4 signal wires and a power signal to flip the relay on). And if you're feeling lazy, we can make custom length ultra-low resistance wires to your spec (we have a separate page for the custom wire sets).

We've also had a handful of 3 rotor, v6, and v8 customers as well... the FC has plenty of room for the mounts, and they allow you to place them in various orientations as space/design allows.

Universal mounts, flying lead, and coils: AEM/IGN-1A Universal Smart Coil Mounting System - SakeBomb Garage LLC

Custom Plug wires: Custom Length Spark Plug Wires for AEM Smart Coils or Custom Applications - SakeBomb Garage LLC




Attached Thumbnails AEM IGN-1A Mercury Marine ignition coil info/install-fc-coils.jpeg  
__________________
SAKEBOMB GARAGE LLC
www.SAKEBOMBGARAGE.com
Specialty aftermarket parts & service // Fremont, California
Contact: info@sakebombgarage.com
Old 07-16-14, 06:56 PM
  #195  
Junior Member

 
Ovrated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: boise, idaho
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
has anyone installed this on a car running an AEM ecu as well?
i see all the coil dwell settings for PFC, but its nothing like that in the AEM.

anyone know the settings to use with these coils on an AEM ecu?

thanks!
Old 07-17-14, 07:14 AM
  #196  
Wastegate John

iTrader: (13)
 
RENESISFD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Long Island NY 11746
Posts: 2,979
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
^ Which AEM ECU?
Old 07-17-14, 10:53 AM
  #197  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (10)
 
04G35S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,053
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I have the series 1 PnP AEM EMS. I would also like to know if anyone is running these with this EMS.
Old 07-17-14, 06:20 PM
  #198  
Junior Member

 
Ovrated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: boise, idaho
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RENESISFD
^ Which AEM ECU?

series 1 pnp.
30-1800 i believe.
Old 08-06-14, 01:53 PM
  #199  
32psi+

iTrader: (42)
 
Copeland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,323
Received 40 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by 04G35S
I have the series 1 PnP AEM EMS. I would also like to know if anyone is running these with this EMS.
I've been using them with the AEM EMS v1 ECU for about 2 years now.

I use them in direct fire configuration on a GTX4294R turbo @ 30psi on E85.

C. Ludwig made the harness and altered my existing map to accommodate the changes for direct fire. I highly recommend you reach out to him for assistance.
Old 08-06-14, 01:58 PM
  #200  
Junior Member

 
Ovrated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: boise, idaho
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Copeland
I've been using them with the AEM EMS v1 ECU for about 2 years now.

I use them in direct fire configuration on a GTX4294R turbo @ 30psi on E85.

C. Ludwig made the harness and altered my existing map to accommodate the changes for direct fire. I highly recommend you reach out to him for assistance.


i bought the setup from Sakebomb, so i don't feel its right to reach out to ludwig to support something he didn't sell. Sakebomb didn't know how to set the aem up though.

about to just part this thing out!


Quick Reply: AEM IGN-1A Mercury Marine ignition coil info/install



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 PM.