v mount setup pics
02-21-07, 07:55 AM
#76
Originally Posted by fritts
So is there someone currently making a rad for v-mount setups? If so what are the total costs involved for the modification/rad.
-Dan
02-21-07, 08:10 AM
#77
Originally Posted by afgmoto1978
I'm utilizing the undertray, I will be making my own ducting with proper sealing and I plan on modifying the stock hood for proper ducting of the IC. Were it's actually creates a low pressure zone to create suction instead of a gapping hole that shows the IC in full view with not idael aero benefits.
02-21-07, 08:23 AM
#78
Originally Posted by Scrub
Just wait for the one FDnewbie will be selling, it should be pretty well designed and will utilize the A/C 
either way...here is mine
either way...here is mine
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02-21-07, 08:54 AM
#80
Dan,
Something puzzles me when I look at this picture. Based on my measurements, the RE v-mount intercooler must not meet the radiator right at the top edge of the endtank, it must overhang an inch or two further back towards the engine, or not be very tall. There's no way there's 11"+ between the frame rail up by the hood latch, and the top edge of the radiator.
Does the IC extend back further than the radiator? Do the two actuaklly meet (touch)?
Something puzzles me when I look at this picture. Based on my measurements, the RE v-mount intercooler must not meet the radiator right at the top edge of the endtank, it must overhang an inch or two further back towards the engine, or not be very tall. There's no way there's 11"+ between the frame rail up by the hood latch, and the top edge of the radiator.
Does the IC extend back further than the radiator? Do the two actuaklly meet (touch)?
Originally Posted by Scrub
Most people modify the radiator end tanks to make plumbing easier as pictured below. This is a picture of my radiator which is from Rotary Extremes V-mount. It is semi difficult to get the end tanks modified on the radiator.
Thanks BYE,
Dan
Thanks BYE,
Dan
02-21-07, 09:48 AM
#84
Originally Posted by Scrub
Not that I am aware of at present. But check in the dealer section under FDnewbie. He will be offering a V-mount kit in a few months.
-Dan
-Dan
02-21-07, 10:49 AM
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Just for laffs, this is my setup that was described previously...
Endtank w/ flow separation vanes (rough stage):
Front view during assembly:
Engine bay view:
Front air splitter:
Vented undertray:
Endtank w/ flow separation vanes (rough stage):
Front view during assembly:
Engine bay view:
Front air splitter:
Vented undertray:
02-21-07, 11:35 AM
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ah, mocal's. see maxcooper's install writeup for the CWR kit
http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/parts_i...lers/index.htm
http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/parts_i...lers/index.htm
02-21-07, 11:45 AM
#90
Yup... but some of us have had problems w/ the Mocal cooler fittings cracking, so some have replaced them w/ Earls coolers. I've currently got one of each.
Originally Posted by airborne
ah, mocal's. see maxcooper's install writeup for the CWR kit
http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/parts_i...lers/index.htm
http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/parts_i...lers/index.htm
02-21-07, 11:46 AM
#91
Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Dan,
Something puzzles me when I look at this picture. Based on my measurements, the RE v-mount intercooler must not meet the radiator right at the top edge of the endtank, it must overhang an inch or two further back towards the engine, or not be very tall. There's no way there's 11"+ between the frame rail up by the hood latch, and the top edge of the radiator.
Does the IC extend back further than the radiator? Do the two actuaklly meet (touch)?
Something puzzles me when I look at this picture. Based on my measurements, the RE v-mount intercooler must not meet the radiator right at the top edge of the endtank, it must overhang an inch or two further back towards the engine, or not be very tall. There's no way there's 11"+ between the frame rail up by the hood latch, and the top edge of the radiator.
Does the IC extend back further than the radiator? Do the two actuaklly meet (touch)?
And my oil cooler setup was Rotary extremes dual setup....but I am currently designing an oil cooler system that uses nicer materials for everyone to enjoy
I doubt the kit FDnewbie is promoting will be sold in pieces and rightfully so.
-Dan
02-21-07, 12:23 PM
#92
Dan,
Here's the distance I mean. Based on my modeling and measurements, there's only about 10" between those points, or only enough distance for a 10" core ithout the additional core hanging out behind that upper corner of the radiator end tank (if they were touching, it would mean that any portion of the IC core behind there wouldn't see any incoming air flow)
Here's the distance I mean. Based on my modeling and measurements, there's only about 10" between those points, or only enough distance for a 10" core ithout the additional core hanging out behind that upper corner of the radiator end tank (if they were touching, it would mean that any portion of the IC core behind there wouldn't see any incoming air flow)
02-21-07, 01:27 PM
#93
ptrhahn,
I knew what distance you were referring to and I also came to the same conclusion you did. Even if all of the IC wasn't seeing incoming air it should still act as a heat sink. I don't think an inch or two extra not being hit directly by air would hurt performance that much.
BTW, here is the picture I have taken a few days ago for something else..... as you can see in the picture you're pretty much right.
-Dan
I knew what distance you were referring to and I also came to the same conclusion you did. Even if all of the IC wasn't seeing incoming air it should still act as a heat sink. I don't think an inch or two extra not being hit directly by air would hurt performance that much.
BTW, here is the picture I have taken a few days ago for something else..... as you can see in the picture you're pretty much right.
-Dan
02-21-07, 01:41 PM
#94
^^^^
Thanks Dan... just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something. I see all of the V-mount pics with 11-12" tall IC's, and wonder how the hell they fit that much at the apex of the two coolers, but it looks like the simpler answer is, "they didn't" exactly.
I'm worried about pressure drop with a shorter core (I don't want to overhang it), so I'm looking at perhaps using a 4.5" thick one to compensate.
Thanks Dan... just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something. I see all of the V-mount pics with 11-12" tall IC's, and wonder how the hell they fit that much at the apex of the two coolers, but it looks like the simpler answer is, "they didn't" exactly.
I'm worried about pressure drop with a shorter core (I don't want to overhang it), so I'm looking at perhaps using a 4.5" thick one to compensate.
02-21-07, 03:14 PM
#95
Originally Posted by oorx7
Mot sure if your interested, But i have a suggestion for you setup. I was doing something very similar to your set up before I decided to just go single turbo. The rear turbo inlet can utilize the same plastic piece as the front turbo inlet. It actually faces directly up. This way you can fab up piping that is not shaped like an S. If you look back at one of my previous posts you can see what I mean.
Good point, but I'm actually retaining the S pipe with the addition of adding a recirc tube from the secondary bypass BOV. I'll think about it though.
02-21-07, 03:38 PM
#96
Originally Posted by afgmoto1978
Good point, but I'm actually retaining the S pipe with the addition of adding a recirc tube from the secondary bypass BOV. I'll think about it though.
02-21-07, 03:39 PM
#97
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Originally Posted by KINETIK_FD3S
s-thetikz - thanks, post some pics up when you finish.
HedgeHog - i pulled up that coolant hose and wiring after that pic but there is no problems with the height of the rad/fans.
oorx7 - sounds good, ill pm you shortly.
felix_is_alive - lol i know i pulled those up since.
gracer7-rx7 - sorry, i read the pm but forgot to reply, check your Pm's, also check the link i posted in the first page for pics of my radiator mounts and outlets, I'm doing another v-mount radiator soon so ill make sure to take lots of pics
FD3S2005 - that thing is M I A, i never tried to fit it back on.
Speedworks - i understand what you are saying but what i'm telling you is that its not going to make that much difference, you make it sound like IC pipes at a 90 angle are going to cause a 30hp drop.
HedgeHog - i pulled up that coolant hose and wiring after that pic but there is no problems with the height of the rad/fans.
oorx7 - sounds good, ill pm you shortly.
felix_is_alive - lol i know i pulled those up since.
gracer7-rx7 - sorry, i read the pm but forgot to reply, check your Pm's, also check the link i posted in the first page for pics of my radiator mounts and outlets, I'm doing another v-mount radiator soon so ill make sure to take lots of pics
FD3S2005 - that thing is M I A, i never tried to fit it back on.
Speedworks - i understand what you are saying but what i'm telling you is that its not going to make that much difference, you make it sound like IC pipes at a 90 angle are going to cause a 30hp drop.
Don't take it the wrong way. I just mean that some guys are spending over 3000$ (that's twice my monthly wage) on a V mount kit. For that amount of money cfr. work) you could expect something more sophisticated.
02-21-07, 03:48 PM
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Just thinking about it with the RE kit from the 7store as the example you get
a big ol ASP large size IC
2in rad
bunch of couplers and brackets.
The rad and IC alone are about $1900. The other $900 go towards R&D
but most stock mount IC's seem to have that 90deg angle you're talkin about.
a big ol ASP large size IC
2in rad
bunch of couplers and brackets.
The rad and IC alone are about $1900. The other $900 go towards R&D
but most stock mount IC's seem to have that 90deg angle you're talkin about.
