adam c

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Good entertainment here. I'm enjoying it Lets get back to how big of a douchbag little Donny is!!!!

R-R-Rx7

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to the OP, or someone else in the same situation, if you somehow figure out a way to register it legally let me know and i will ship my one over

DC5Daniel

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You'll be waiting another 12 years until it's 25 year exempt, so sit tight. Only way it will be 100%, truly legal in this country, no matter what the OP or anyone else wants to claim.

lastphaseofthis

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i feel all rx8club forumy.

yes T-von. the refinement! this newness of it still. my 70k mile 04 rx8 still feels like it did new... i bet this thing would have that.. "feel"..

R-R-Rx7

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yeah i know that rule... they say theres a rule that if you own the care for x amount of time you can import it legally.. something with being a resident vs a citizen or whatever

Montego

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Oh you have no idea....

BTW- His business is landscaping/snow removal (that counts as two I guess) and family pitched in to get it started. Which is great and good for him but don't be a douche about it.

Dons03FD

Actually second business is hidden for a reason. Don't go based off everything you see on the internet

Dons03FD

And thats the town I used as the address to do business in a particular county. LMAO internet trolls are hilarious. Love y'all

ZoomZoom

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Everyone on the Internet is an expert.

I know folks like to bring up MotoRex every time the subject of importing a RHD car comes up. You can import a RHD car legally. Cars that don't conform to EPA, DOT and state regulations needs to go through a broker. You can completely skip the broker if you are bringing in a car that conforms to US spec already.
How do you know if it conforms? You need a letter from the Manufacturer with the Vin and build date on corporate letterhead that states the car conforms to U.S. Spec. (This is what I did for my import)

The Skyline GT-R was never sold here and it needed to go thru a broker. MotoRex was a broker. There are still brokers who do this and it's still legal to bring a car in that way. The problem with MotoRex is they started skirting the rules to get US Vin#'s. I won't go into specifics but let's say I know what I am talking about. I've imported cars. My friends have imported cars and yes one of us even imported an R32 thru MotoRex. I won't get into specifics as folks have a real hard-on about it. My point is that bringing up MotoRex doesn't mean you can't import a car legally because of what happened to that company and some of its customers.


R32 Skyline GT-R by -mik3ymomo-

Dons03FD

No need to even try to enlighten them. they read things off the internet and don't even do their own research to find out the process. There are legal R34's in Philly right now from a company that brings the cars over the correct way. So don't even bother trying to educate them. I guess if I would of imported a 1993-1995 they would feel more at ease about the car but simply because my importing cost just as much as their car for it to be done the right way, they feel pressed to have an opinion. It's all good, I know some people live to talk crap on the internet because they are insecure. Just know when the R34 arrives, I don't want to see instant groupies

Fritz Flynn

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YEP

ZoomZoom

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Yes, all bringing in a car that's 25 years old is that you don't need to make the car conform. It doesn't need a broker. Anything can come in and be registered. The rules about passive restraints, theft prevention, emissions standards, glass, lights etc are all moot. You don't need to invest in anything to get the car legal.

All this information is online for those who aren't already MotoRex experts lol.

Fritz Flynn

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GTR makes sense but the FD is already here.

If they are cheap then I'm sure they will continue to come over as parts cars. Otherwise I don't get it

ZoomZoom

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Fritz,

I don't know Dom and can't speak to what he believes or what's motivated him other than passion for these cars. I think we all see the Spirit R parts in our cars as an upgrade. Seats, 99'spec turbos, Efini Y pipes, BBS wheels...
The GT-R cost around $100k +\- to get here and get legal to drive. The cars can be brought in now and had for $20k because they don't conform but no longer have to.
Also they are older cars and worth less in value then when imported over a decade ago. So that $100k spent was just the cost of being first. It wasn't an investment.

The cars being brought in for display don't need to conform. They can't be registered. The cost of bringing in a car for display is much less than making it legal to drive. The cost will be such that it could be considered an investment. It won't be getting mileage unless it's on track or loaded on and off a trailer lol.

I actually see Doms point of it being an investment more than the cars made to be road worthy. The investment is much lower and the upside is still there.

But he would have to answer that question.

Fritz Flynn

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Sorry I meant r34

Yep the R cars have nice parts but no way no how will I ever drive a RHD FD.

AND cars are terrible investments compared to most anything else.

ZoomZoom

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I agree about the R34 cars. Buying one now and the cost outlay doesn't make any sense to me when you can finally buy a US spec R35 GT-R for less and it's a LHD. Other than being unique there isn't any upside in my opinion in bringing in an R34 Skykine for street use.

Maybe bringing in an R34 for display for a collection... But it's value is going to be greatly diminished in a few years when it's hits the 25 year mark and they can bring them in cheap as chips.

The problem with bringing in a car for display is that once it's here for display it has to stay that way. As far as I know it can't ever be converted from that designation. At least it can't before the 25 year mark and possibly won't ever be legal but I would need to look into that part of the law again as I never considered the display side of importation. Anything I brought in I wanted to be able to drive and that's pretty much where my experience is.

I wished they kept making LHD FD's for the world market. I would pick one up in a NY min from Germany or other euro country that drives on the correct side of the road.

I know some US car collectors that are into British classics and they pay a premium for the LHD cars even if the cars are so rare they can only find heaps. They end up doing full restorations. All the car collectors I know want to be able to drive their passion; not just look at it.

I don't know about current brokers bringing in R34's...but back when MotoRex was importing R32 and R33 skylines you could pay extra to get the car converted to LHD. No idea how many if any were converted to LHD.

Montego

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Ok Mr Trump if you say so. What town and what address are you talking about? I said nothing about that as all I posted was a house. Dude you're a hard-working man. You can be proud and humble at the same time. Don't be a douche about it. When it comes to money: There is never enough of it and someone else always has more.

Btw- You are the troll here. As Sgtblue pointed out the only reason you made this thread is so you could get your ego stroked. You didn't really want to hear people's opinions nor did you want a price point. Total troll material right there.

That's all wonderful but where were you when ibanezFreak87 got his FD3S seized? BTW that was his second RHD import so it wasn't his first rodeo

Don't think I didn't notice you leaving him out as it doesn't conform to your argument.


But anyway as a running theme it is very typical of you to miss the point of the post. He posted that he was was all good because he used japstars as they have imported & REGISTERED several R34's here in the States. Sound familiar? My response was akin to ' these guys same the same thing and look at what happened '. The lesson being you can't trust anyone. Just because they have imported cars in the past does not mean ****. Because when the feds decide to come after your **** they will take it.

There is a reason why people always use motorex & kaizo as examples. You want to know why? Because it HAPPENED that's why. No matter how much you argue and complain you can't change the fact that the feds have gone after people's property more than once.

ZoomZoom

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Like all things there is a right way to do things and a wrong way. I've imported cars and so have my friends. If you don't follow the rules it's pretty clear how it's likely to turn out.
I don't know the details on his case so I did not comment on it. I guess I could ASSume and just comment on it? I've commented on what I know from experience and thru research of my own for the purpose of importing cars.
None of mine or my friends cars where crushed. They are all legally registered, titled, insured. We paid the fees, duty and taxes, filed all the correct forms both federal and state.

The cars that needed to conform were converted. All this was done thru an authorized and licensed broker. What more is there to say?

Maybe start reading and get familiar with the laws and then we can discuss it if you are really interested in the process. It's mainly why I didn't write a tutorial on my experience because someone always wants to swagger in without any knowledge or credibility and makes claims that its not legal. Then there is no value for people who don't know reading the thread on who's on the right side of the discussion. It's the same with this thread. Unfortunately this is why people don't bother with Forums. At least the people with valuable experience to share.


https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-impo.../importing-car

ZoomZoom

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Ok so now no one can be trusted...
Thanks for your contributions to this discussion Montego... Brilliantly executed as usual. You have a very high post count. Maybe you should read more and post less. Particularly about things that your input has no significant value. Just a thought...

Montego

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You are welcomed but like I said as usual you failed to comprehend posts. Maybe read a little slower and we won't get into these debates? Actually my post count is over a consecutive 15 year period. Do the math genius or maybe you can take a math class along with a reading comprehension course.

No value lol ok so are you saying that japstars are more legit than kaizo and motorex? Right because people trusted them and gave them their hard earned money and look at where it got them. I bet you don't come back because you aren't willing to answer that japstars is more of a legit business than motorex and kaizo.

The thing is that you are still pissed about the whole V8 vs rotary thing. And look at you now proud owner of a rotary powered sports car... You came back home!

Tell you what man if I ever meet you I'll buy you a beer so we can bury the hatchet.

ZoomZoom

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I spoke clearly. Stop commenting or at least stay on topic.
Yes it's terrible when people do bad things. You seem to be on some crusade about importing cars is a bad idea because of some fraud. There are dozens of companies bringing in cars from all over the world. The extent of your knowledge is elementary and now you are just having a fit because you have nothing else to add and think you own the place.

If you want to talk about the V8 vs rotary there are other threads. This isn't one although it's clear what your intentions were on bringing that up. Again it's more of the same of you not knowing what you are talking about. I love swaps. Ask anyone who knows me.

Montego

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I'm chilling you are the one that has been pissed from the day one.

OK so I'll ask the resident expert again: so is japstars a business that is more of a trust worthy than Kaizo and motorex?

Sgtblue

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Yeah...it is. And those dozens of companies will give you all the assurances in the world. I'd bet a box of police donuts that no where in the contract do they guarantee the car will be legal for IMPORT and the money is held in escrow until that's established on the Federal level. They get their money and you might have gotten a car. You might have even registered it in one of the 50 States. But does that make it legal? Nope. Could it be seized? Yep. Will it be seized? Doubtful, but possible. I spoke with a guy in Customs I met professionally some years ago after reading about what Kaizio did. Casual conversation but to make sure what he was telling me was right, he called a guy he knew who had dealt in that area of enforcement. Essentially what I was told is that they have bigger fish to fry but occasionally there are enforcement pushes and the VIN may ring a bell. They don't care how or where you got your title, or how many assurances you got from the importers.
Douche-baggery aside, one pays their money and takes their chances.

ZoomZoom

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Like with anything there can be fraud. Hell I've dealt with it buying domestic. Are there assurances in life that people will always do as they are supposed to? It's a moot point. Doesn't matter if you are hiring a contractor to add on an addition to your home or one power washing your deck.
There are legal consequences when fraud is involved.

It isn't an argument against importing a car. As a consumer you are much better off if you inform yourself and do your due diligence. It's no guarantee all things will work out all the time but it will surely lessen the chance. These are simple concepts and most people live by them everyday. Otherwise business just won't get done. Not everyone who does business is going to try to cheat you. Not even the majority of business is done this way or Capitalism would fail.

There are laws in place on how to import a car. It's been done legally by thousands of people every year. If you guys are scared of the process because you read some news article that there has been fraud how do you guys walk down the street? Aren't you worried you might be attacked? Lord knows it's happened before many times!

But hey it's the Internet. I shouldn't and didn't expect any less.

I think we have exhausted the value of this thread but I'm sure it will continue to drag on if for no other reason than for certain folks with nothing to really add to strut around like a Peacock...

Montego

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So no answer huh… Now the reason you aren’t answering is because if you do it will show that you once AGAIN can’t read a post. Oh but we can’t have that can we? But it doesn’t matter because you already answered it prior to me asking:

Oh looky here… So you don’t know (big surprise) which ultimately falls right in line with my original comment. Duh

Aren’t you getting tired of this? I know I am. Because if you would had actually read it instead of inferring incorrectly, you could had easily replied with post #74 and call it a day. But nah right?

Don’t even try and pull that value B.S. here. It may apply to other threads but not this one. This one was created by the OP for the sole purpose of having members stroke his ego. Nothing more, nothing less. Or did you miss that as well?
I gotta say zoom - your disdain for me is palpable. Which is rather funny because it is the internet man. Seriously, it doesn’t matter. So what if I pissed you off about your V8? I was just goofing with you. I mean it’s not like you actually built it, nope you just bought it. Big effin deal. The best part about it is that I am a firm believer of it’s your car do what you want with it lol. I’ll be honest, if I would had known that you were this fragile I wouldn’t have pushed your buttons. Truth.

In the past, you have continuously nitpicked my posts to death in attempt to somehow get back at me. So my gift to you is: I am not going to reply to any of your posts anymore. You are just going to have to learn to live with it or stew in it my friend. But know this: every time you attempt to engage, I will smile though.

Have a good day sir.