2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Will not shift into gear, undrivable.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-14, 11:41 AM
  #1  
Brap Brap Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
GW0LF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 48
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Will not shift into gear, undrivable.

So the past couple weeks, it seems that my clutch pedal had got softer or non-existent since the last time I asked assistance when my car wouldn't start.

Flooding issue thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...start-1073692/

So I come here again asking your help guys, this is my only way around to work so I need to find out what this could potentially be and where to look ASAP.

Work your magic forum.
Old 11-17-14, 12:30 PM
  #2  
Cake or Death?

iTrader: (2)
 
clokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mile High
Posts: 10,249
Received 63 Likes on 53 Posts
Replace the master cylinder, hose and slave cylinder all at the same time.
Probability of success is about 90%.
Old 11-17-14, 12:31 PM
  #3  
Rotary Porn Addict

iTrader: (2)
 
Rikk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would start by checking for fluid in the reservoir(if empty then fill) then check the clutch line on the top of the transmission, then look for a leak near the bottom of the transmission where it meets the engine, if you have someone to assist you pump the clutch and see if the other individual can find a leak while pumping the clutch, does it build pressure when pumping the clutch?
Old 11-17-14, 12:38 PM
  #4  
Brap Brap Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
GW0LF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 48
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by badsvt1
I would start by checking for fluid in the reservoir(if empty then fill) then check the clutch line on the top of the transmission, then look for a leak near the bottom of the transmission where it meets the engine, if you have someone to assist you pump the clutch and see if the other individual can find a leak while pumping the clutch, does it build pressure when pumping the clutch?
^
Where is the reservoir located? And I will give that a shot first.

Originally Posted by clokker
Replace the master cylinder, hose and slave cylinder all at the same time.
Probability of success is about 90%.
^
Both of these clyinders located on the transmission?
Old 11-17-14, 12:53 PM
  #5  
Cake or Death?

iTrader: (2)
 
clokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mile High
Posts: 10,249
Received 63 Likes on 53 Posts
Oh oh.

The master is on the firewall, connected to the pedal.
The slave is on the transmission, pushing on the throwout lever.
The hose connects the two.

The parts aren't expensive and there's an excellent chance they fix your problem in under an hour.
Old 11-17-14, 02:05 PM
  #6  
Fistful of steel

iTrader: (7)
 
LargeOrangeFont's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: OC, So Cal
Posts: 2,202
Received 27 Likes on 26 Posts
if your clutch master cylinder reservoir is low and you cannot find any evidence of it leaking, it is leaking under the dash, and running under the carpet.
Old 11-20-14, 07:26 PM
  #7  
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Level Zero Motorsports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Maple Ridge
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
As said, it's most likely the clutch hydraulics. If you don't mind spending the extra time, you can replace the slave cylinder first. It's the mostly likely to wear out. If that doesn't fix the problem, replace the master. This is more work but if it is the sale cylinder you'll only have to replace the one part.

I personally just did both my master and slave as well as replacing the line with a SS one this spring. Made a world of difference for the feel of the clutch.
Old 11-21-14, 09:46 AM
  #8  
Full Member

iTrader: (2)
 
Robert Stanton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lehman, PA
Posts: 95
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would do them both at the same time, they are cheap and easy to replace, no sense making two trips to the parts store.
Old 11-21-14, 02:57 PM
  #9  
(blank)

iTrader: (1)
 
pfsantos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: YYZ
Posts: 2,285
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Rockauto.com

M/C: $19-54
Slave: $6-34
Hose: $9-22

Not affiliated with them.
Old 11-22-14, 03:29 PM
  #10  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
barkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Hampsha
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by GW0LF
^
Where is the reservoir located? And I will give that a shot first.



^
Both of these clyinders located on the transmission?
these questions lead me to believe that just topping of the reservoir, once you find it, will fix the issue...
Old 11-22-14, 05:29 PM
  #11  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,780
Received 2,565 Likes on 1,824 Posts
Originally Posted by barkz
these questions lead me to believe that just topping of the reservoir, once you find it, will fix the issue...
it shouldn't leak. if it does something is wrong
Old 11-22-14, 06:57 PM
  #12  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
barkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Hampsha
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ummm well yeah...
Old 11-22-14, 10:26 PM
  #13  
Cake or Death?

iTrader: (2)
 
clokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mile High
Posts: 10,249
Received 63 Likes on 53 Posts
Originally Posted by Level Zero Motorsports
As said, it's most likely the clutch hydraulics. If you don't mind spending the extra time, you can replace the slave cylinder first. It's the mostly likely to wear out. If that doesn't fix the problem, replace the master. This is more work but if it is the sale cylinder you'll only have to replace the one part.

I personally just did both my master and slave as well as replacing the line with a SS one this spring. Made a world of difference for the feel of the clutch.
Originally Posted by Robert Stanton
I would do them both at the same time, they are cheap and easy to replace, no sense making two trips to the parts store.
I always try to do the entirety of a hydraulic system at one time because the truly time consuming part is bleeding, so do everything and only bleed once.
Pfsantos shows how inexpensive the parts are and remember, as one seal in a system starts to go, it spreads debris throughout and abrades all the other seals. If you replace say, just the slave, it's almost inevitable the master will soon follow and you'll be back in there anyway, so just slay the beast in one whack.
Old 12-09-14, 01:31 PM
  #14  
Brap Brap Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
GW0LF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 48
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well thanks everyone to help! I feel like a complete idiot, I finally found the reservoir and in-fact, it was empty...

So I added the fluid and bleeded the cylinder to be safe and she is back on the road again turning heads.

Thanks again everyone!
Old 12-09-14, 02:07 PM
  #15  
Cake or Death?

iTrader: (2)
 
clokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mile High
Posts: 10,249
Received 63 Likes on 53 Posts
Originally Posted by GW0LF
Well thanks everyone to help! I feel like a complete idiot, I finally found the reservoir and in-fact, it was empty...
Brake fluid does not evaporate, so it must have leaked out.
Now that you have fluid in the system I'd take a good look at the back of the master where it comes through the firewall, that's a common leak site and hard to see because of the insulation.
Old 12-09-14, 02:08 PM
  #16  
(blank)

iTrader: (1)
 
pfsantos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: YYZ
Posts: 2,285
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Well, it only took you two weeks to find it.
Old 12-09-14, 03:18 PM
  #17  
Brap Brap Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
GW0LF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 48
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pfsantos
Well, it only took you two weeks to find it.
I actually found it sooner, I just forgot to report back. :P
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
distr0
Canadian Forum
3
10-07-15 08:17 AM
musker
New Member RX-7 Technical
1
10-01-15 05:58 PM



Quick Reply: Will not shift into gear, undrivable.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:41 PM.