YoKramer

Anyone know anything about this? Really need a fmic and just ran across this one. Probably gonna end up with the rx7store one but was interested in the price of this one lol.

http://www.protuninglab.com/86marx7f...id=56128534817

RotaryEvolution

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that picture is for an FD SMIC, not an FC FMIC. probably not the right kit.

YoKramer

Yea it looked wrong for sure. I sent them an email so we'll see what they say. And I can't find anything on the Internet about it so I'm not getting my hopes up

What do you think about the rx7store kit? Any other one you would recommend?

RotaryEvolution

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i havent seen any good FC kits, since i consider a V mount the best option for the FC and most of those kits are expensive piles of feces.

the greddy is probably the best kit otherwise, but it is a front mount.

YoKramer

Well right now with a BNR stage 3 on wastegate only it creeps up to about 12.5lbs and into 4th iat got to 142 with ambient in the low 30s F. They fall almost as fast as they climb but I really don't want to keep the top mount for obvious reasons. I have no problem going v-mount but I've only found the rotary works one and I've yet to read anything good about it. As well as needing to get and fab an electric fan. Is there a specific kit you recommend for a vmount?

RotaryEvolution

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as i said, i don't know a single v mount kit for the FC i would recommend, the greddy FMIC kit is probably the best compromise if you can keep the water temps down. there is a greddy knockoff kit that is close in quality at a fraction of the cost.

i'm just going to do my own v-mount, since no one has proved anything to be worth it.

YoKramer

Well hell alright guess I may just live with it through the winter and figure out a V mount system. It does just fine crusing and single gear pulls so while it's cold I'll just be smart driving.

DC5Daniel

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Godspeed is the Freddy (fake Greddy), and for the most part fits pretty poorly. Most of the fitment issues are attributed to the Greddy being designed for RHD but as Ben said, nothing is spectacular.

YoKramer

This for sure isn't what I wanted to hear lol.

DC5Daniel

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You can make it work, just as the majority of us have. Just don't expect a perfect fit out of the box.

YoKramer

Yea I figured there was would be some massaging. My biggest concern is moving the leading coils or battery.

DC5Daniel

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At the time, I still had the battery in the stock location (though I used a smaller 51R), and I did reposition the leading coil. I've seen pictures where people have done it without moving any of that, but it's so tight and fit so poorly in that area, I can't imagine how.

RotaryEvolution

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even the true greddy kit needs modification to fit, the knockoff kit actually fits technically as well as the greddy does. ie they both hit the brake master cylinder. i've installed both, the godspeed isn't a bad kit for the price and the installation was pretty much a mirror of the greddy, however the godspeed kits tend to come damaged quite often.

i have made the greddy fit with the stock battery and power steering, it is a tight squeeze though. the leading coil does need to be moved regardless. the final elbow to the engine needs to be trimmed about 2" so it doesn't try to strongarm the brake master cylinder to a 45* angle.

YoKramer

Is it possible to use the greddy kit to eventually make a V-Mount? I wouldnt mind picking up a knock off now to at least help with the temps and fab something out of it when I have the time and a 2nd car that I can have the FC down for a while.

Also currently not running Power Steering but I will eventually be putting it back in once I source all the parts cheap enough.

DC5Daniel

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You're only on a hybrid, there's not a massive need for an intercooler. I would almost be considering something like an upgraded topmount and/or water injector (for IAT cooling only). The second you slap the FMIC in, your ability to keep coolant temps in check is complicated.

Jager

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Why not just build a kit?

Maybe easier to get what you need done.

And IMHO: It's always better to go with a frontmount over a top mount.

YoKramer

As of right now on wastegate only at ~12.5psi I see IAT peak in the 125s on 3rd gear pulls and the only 4th gear one Ive made they shot up to the 142 range all in low to mid 30* ambient temps. My Coolant temps are rock steady in the mid 180s (falls to 150s on the pre thermostat side when its closed) no matter what Im doing. My concern is once it gets warmer, and add more boost with a controller (goal is 14-15psi) the IATs will only get hotter. We have reservations of going water injection only because its something that can fail and seems like a last resort to keep IAT down. If I can do it with hard parts Id prefer to go that way. However I will start reading more in the AI subforum to see what I would be getting into.

YoKramer

Biggest reason is down time, I can get the pre-made kits done on a saturday at work while a full custom one will be a full weekend or 2 and the car will be down for a week or so. I just got the car done after having it for a year and currently the only other car we have is my wife's which we have been sharing that time. As of right now Im just trying to get all my options together to see which is the best way to go.

RotaryEvolution

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even a premade kit will take days to a week to install. all kits require modification to the car to install except for a top mount. which is also why i think its stupid as hell to spend $2500 on a intercooler kit, because half the work you will still be doing on your own anyways.

YoKramer

Yea I'm only looking to spend ~$500 on the kit both the godspeed and rx7store kits come in under that. Are the kits really that terrible that with a lift and a full shop it takes that long to install? If that is truly the case just going custom is what I will start with and figure out a vmount system with my current koyorad and some whatever intercooler I can make fit.

RotaryEvolution

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yes it is, you have to remove the front bumper, the bumper support, flatten the end of the framerails, cut holes in body under the headlights, install bushings so your pipes don't get chewed up, modify any kit you have so it actually fits, trim the front bumper and then play around with fitment some more. it is possible to get a kit to fit in a day but it's probably going to be a hacktastic job with so little time spent.

YoKramer

Well I guess that changes everything then. Time to just be easy on what I have and start piecing together a vmount.

rowtareh?

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I have a knockoff Greddy kit and it's okay, the major problem is the IC is enormous and I have around 60% of the IC is blocked by the bumper. I already know major modifications were done to the kit I have. I do however love the BOV that was installed, it's an Apexi and it's really quiet.

I've helped with one install on a FMIC and it's a huge pain in the ***. I prefer almost anything else over it. It's cut, fit, pull off, cut, fit, over and over.

Jager

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They are not drop in. You'll do a fair share of customization, trimming, and working around them to fit it right.

Also you may have to relocate your battery for the "Godspeed" kit.


Good luck for even more fab work.

They are all the same. If you look on eBay there are $200-$300 kits of the same make.

They are not terrible. They fit poorly and are designed for a RHD car. Like stated above the customization to make them fit is not difficult, but it'll be time consuming to make fit 'right'.

If you do haggard work, it'll of course take less time.

Listen to RotaryEvolution as he has installed plenty and I have installed the Greddy kit that it's based off of. It just isn't a 100% great fit and I ended up having to trim mine up in a few spots, but I had a good day into that part and apart of another day dinking with bumpers and misc other things.

I also like to see good work and to make it look nice .

Good luck.

YoKramer

Yea all of that is why Ill just go with a v-mount. The car runs well right now and we still have a bit more road tuning to do, and I can keep my foot out of it with no problem if needed. Right now I need the car driving more than I need the car to go fast. So Ill wait till I pick up the next project, XJ Cherokee, and get it to a good running driving position the put the 7 down for however long it takes to do right. Hell at this point I've done everything else right, full engine rebuild by RX7 world, Haltech RE with a flying lead kit, remove all the non essentials, and install it all nice and clean so I might as well take my time with the vmount project. Doesnt hurt that its a 10th anny with only 90k on the body Id like to do as right by it as I can ya know.


So I suppose the next question is go with an ebay front mount as a base for the v-mount, or an NPR intercooler, or EVO-8, or any number of universal cores lol.