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SWEET MOTHER! I NEED ONE!!! WHERE CAN I GET ONE ???
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It's okay... Not too bad... I guess...
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THERE IS NO GOD!!! This is the UGLIEST thing I've EVER seen!
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Ultima Body Kit
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01-30-02, 12:07 AM
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I agree it looks a lot better on the silver car than the red...
But did you notice the red one seems to have a dent on the front pic? That might be part of why the airdam is bent. Then again, it might not...
But did you notice the red one seems to have a dent on the front pic? That might be part of why the airdam is bent. Then again, it might not...
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01-30-02, 12:48 AM
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is it a Ultima kit?
The body parts of the silver car may not be an Ultima fibreglass kit.
The front basic shape of both cars is that of a General Motors Commodore. One story I heard was the silver car had a modified GM part. The rear wing and side panels are not from the Ultima kit but may be earlier Selectmaz parts.
The red car is the protype of the Selectmaz Ultimar kit. I am having the front air dam fitted and have run into minor fit problems and am undecided as it the loss of side trim and turn indicator.
Thus are we voting for the red or silver car?
The front basic shape of both cars is that of a General Motors Commodore. One story I heard was the silver car had a modified GM part. The rear wing and side panels are not from the Ultima kit but may be earlier Selectmaz parts.
The red car is the protype of the Selectmaz Ultimar kit. I am having the front air dam fitted and have run into minor fit problems and am undecided as it the loss of side trim and turn indicator.
Thus are we voting for the red or silver car?
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01-30-02, 01:00 AM
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my vte goehe silver car. I love that kit, but since I cant even affordto smog and register my car Idoubt that I will get one. Damn MarineCorps. Wish that I could make more money....
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01-30-02, 08:02 AM
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I love them both.... I do thing if you look closely the front of the red one has been beaten around a bit. The bottom is all scratched up as well as the dent, but it still looks kickass....
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well after your comments on how it mounts i dont think id like it. Paul can you send or post pics of the back of the bumper? i would like to see what it looks like . from what you are saing ... or from what i got of it it sounds like you have to rig it to fit the stock metal bummper????? thanks David
01-31-02, 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by nipplebandit45
my vte goehe silver car. I love that kit, but since I cant even affordto smog and register my car Idoubt that I will get one. Damn MarineCorps. Wish that I could make more money....
mike
my vte goehe silver car. I love that kit, but since I cant even affordto smog and register my car Idoubt that I will get one. Damn MarineCorps. Wish that I could make more money....
mike
01-31-02, 04:35 AM
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i dont like the "fin", or the "wing" or whatever you wanna call it, but i like the back piece, the sideskirts are ok, and the front is kick-***. Anyone know how much this "kit" would run me? for the front, sides, back, and fin (only if i have to buy it) Or is there a website or something? I think ill invest in one here soon...
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01-31-02, 06:09 PM
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The website for the company that makes the Ultima is http://www.selectmaz.com.au/main_frame.htm
The price is somewhere in th $750-800 US price range.
The next question is, who here would actually consider a group buy?
The price is somewhere in th $750-800 US price range.
The next question is, who here would actually consider a group buy?
02-01-02, 04:45 AM
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.Ultima body kit problems.
I purchased the first air dam based on the website photographs.
To answer to BadAss RX-7 question, it is not a simple bolt on replacement as I had expected, but a question of mearuring up and making your own brackets and fixing tabs.
My local panel shop who has done great work on my car, at first refused to fit the air dam due to poor fit, difficulty in fixing and poor quality.
I have many concerns with it:
1 To fit you have to cut out much of the existing bumper strengthening bar losing protection for the corners of the car - a safety problem.
2. The prototype, according to the person who fitted it, was just glued in place and did not use the existing brackets. It required much filler to fit to the existing body. To have a safe and roadworthy system you need to fibreglasss in lugs to the dam then make up the necessary brackets to the body to stop vibration and give strength.
3. The fit is rather poor with gaps at the side which need much filler, 1/4 inch plus. I think the cause of the bulge in the throat of the red car someone noticed is distortion caused by squeezing in the sides to fit.
4. The fibreglass is very thin, about 1/12 inch thick, and ths very flimsy. I am having carbon fibre reinforcement put on the inside using about $100 material.
5. The finish is poor with many pinpricks due to insufficient gel coat and surface distorations. It took nearly three hours by an expert to get a surface which matched a RX-7 standard of finish.
6. You need a set of Eunos 300 turn/park lights at the front, they are costing $120 seconghand.
7. The existing side indicators are deleted which is not legal in some states. I am having small Ford ones fitted at a cost of $50.
8. The existing trim on the bumper and guards is deleted.
It is costing me in the order of $600 to have the paint shop take care of the problems and installation, plus about $200 for the required lights.
All this on a dam which cost $430 plus $80 freight.. Prices in Aus $.
My other hobby is sailing where my boat has a carbon fibre hull. Thus I can judge production fibreglass parts and the need for a good fit.
In summary, its a great shape but lacks engineering and quality. I would have prefered it to cost $200 more and have a better finish but even more critical a fixing system and written instructions. I still worry about losing the safety of a full bumper support bar. At present I would not recommend buying one unless you are willing to spend up to ten hours of your own time before painting takes place. It looks good from a distance in a race car, but up close it does not match a well finished RX-7 without extensive work.
I will post pictures when it is completed, it will be about a week before the paint is hard enough for the final buff.
To answer to BadAss RX-7 question, it is not a simple bolt on replacement as I had expected, but a question of mearuring up and making your own brackets and fixing tabs.
My local panel shop who has done great work on my car, at first refused to fit the air dam due to poor fit, difficulty in fixing and poor quality.
I have many concerns with it:
1 To fit you have to cut out much of the existing bumper strengthening bar losing protection for the corners of the car - a safety problem.
2. The prototype, according to the person who fitted it, was just glued in place and did not use the existing brackets. It required much filler to fit to the existing body. To have a safe and roadworthy system you need to fibreglasss in lugs to the dam then make up the necessary brackets to the body to stop vibration and give strength.
3. The fit is rather poor with gaps at the side which need much filler, 1/4 inch plus. I think the cause of the bulge in the throat of the red car someone noticed is distortion caused by squeezing in the sides to fit.
4. The fibreglass is very thin, about 1/12 inch thick, and ths very flimsy. I am having carbon fibre reinforcement put on the inside using about $100 material.
5. The finish is poor with many pinpricks due to insufficient gel coat and surface distorations. It took nearly three hours by an expert to get a surface which matched a RX-7 standard of finish.
6. You need a set of Eunos 300 turn/park lights at the front, they are costing $120 seconghand.
7. The existing side indicators are deleted which is not legal in some states. I am having small Ford ones fitted at a cost of $50.
8. The existing trim on the bumper and guards is deleted.
It is costing me in the order of $600 to have the paint shop take care of the problems and installation, plus about $200 for the required lights.
All this on a dam which cost $430 plus $80 freight.. Prices in Aus $.
My other hobby is sailing where my boat has a carbon fibre hull. Thus I can judge production fibreglass parts and the need for a good fit.
In summary, its a great shape but lacks engineering and quality. I would have prefered it to cost $200 more and have a better finish but even more critical a fixing system and written instructions. I still worry about losing the safety of a full bumper support bar. At present I would not recommend buying one unless you are willing to spend up to ten hours of your own time before painting takes place. It looks good from a distance in a race car, but up close it does not match a well finished RX-7 without extensive work.
I will post pictures when it is completed, it will be about a week before the paint is hard enough for the final buff.
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Wow!
Thanks for all the info Paul. Too good to be true I guess. Again I'm left wondering tho, where did the bumber on that Silver car come from?
And also, is the manufacturer planning on correcting the problems with the existing Ultima kit?
Thanks for all the info Paul. Too good to be true I guess. Again I'm left wondering tho, where did the bumber on that Silver car come from?
And also, is the manufacturer planning on correcting the problems with the existing Ultima kit?
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smer. Sorry for the bad news
Michael at Selectmaz said the silver car did not have not an Ultima kit. If you look closely the silver car has skirts and a wing.
As I said earlier both look like a GM Commodore under the bumper.
In a thread last year on the Australian Forum, mention was made of a member named FREKNU who had adopted a GM Commodore VS model's front bar. There is a possibility that this steel air dam was later used as the plug to make the mould for the front component of the Ultima kit. It would be a relatively cheap way of making the mould without making an expensive perfect plug.
The shape is good, but the kit part as it comes needs a hell of a lot of work to bring it up to a RX-7 standard of finish. The first advice of my panel shop was to throw it away. However after much brainstorming they agreed to go ahead perhaps as a challenge from keeping diplomatic Mercs and BMWs spotless.
It may be I was expecting too much, and other people are willing to spend a day getting it ready for painting and installation. I noticed US body part manufactures recommend professional installation, Based on experience, panel shop time is not cheap.
Will keep you informed of progress.
Michael at Selectmaz said the silver car did not have not an Ultima kit. If you look closely the silver car has skirts and a wing.
As I said earlier both look like a GM Commodore under the bumper.
In a thread last year on the Australian Forum, mention was made of a member named FREKNU who had adopted a GM Commodore VS model's front bar. There is a possibility that this steel air dam was later used as the plug to make the mould for the front component of the Ultima kit. It would be a relatively cheap way of making the mould without making an expensive perfect plug.
The shape is good, but the kit part as it comes needs a hell of a lot of work to bring it up to a RX-7 standard of finish. The first advice of my panel shop was to throw it away. However after much brainstorming they agreed to go ahead perhaps as a challenge from keeping diplomatic Mercs and BMWs spotless.
It may be I was expecting too much, and other people are willing to spend a day getting it ready for painting and installation. I noticed US body part manufactures recommend professional installation, Based on experience, panel shop time is not cheap.
Will keep you informed of progress.
02-03-02, 06:57 PM
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Ultima Body Kit
If you's didn't like that one SelectMaz has several others to suit RX7 series 1 to 3. You can have a look at all of them at www.selectmaz.com.au , under bodykits. There pretty cool. Apparently you can mix and match aswell.
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I have spent some time trying to get the Ultima kit to fit, and at this stage have decided not to go ahead.
The main problem is the bumper support bar. In the stock car it extends across the whole width of the vehicle giving good protection, In the Utlima the position of the two new turn/indicator lights means that is not possible. You have to cut the bar into sections and weld a shortened version back together. It does not give the same level of protection.
A poimt to note is the original bumper shell was vertical. In the Ultima kit it slopes back. This means the normal rubber strip does not fit unlike the great majority of body kits.
If you are willing to accept these two points, then for road registration purposes it is nessary to fit a turn/park side indicator. This is a good thing as if it is fitted just in front of the wheel arch it can be fixed such that the kit part ahd existing panel can be bolted together for a stronger
join.
The kit is constucted from extremely light fibreglass which worried me. After discussion with a race car builder we worked out it was best to install floopy, then when fixed in the right shape, reinforce with carbon cloth or tape on the inside to make a light strong component.
The main problem is the bumper support bar. In the stock car it extends across the whole width of the vehicle giving good protection, In the Utlima the position of the two new turn/indicator lights means that is not possible. You have to cut the bar into sections and weld a shortened version back together. It does not give the same level of protection.
A poimt to note is the original bumper shell was vertical. In the Ultima kit it slopes back. This means the normal rubber strip does not fit unlike the great majority of body kits.
If you are willing to accept these two points, then for road registration purposes it is nessary to fit a turn/park side indicator. This is a good thing as if it is fitted just in front of the wheel arch it can be fixed such that the kit part ahd existing panel can be bolted together for a stronger
join.
The kit is constucted from extremely light fibreglass which worried me. After discussion with a race car builder we worked out it was best to install floopy, then when fixed in the right shape, reinforce with carbon cloth or tape on the inside to make a light strong component.
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The Selectmaz people have contacted me over concerns I have been having over the finish and fit of the kit. I was hoping originally to have a photograph out.
The air dam was sent to me as the first one sold, in rather a hurry as my car was already in the paint shop to bring it up to show standards. The place normally works on diplomatic BMWs and Mercs producing a very standard finish, and high cost! Thus, the paint shop was commenting against luxury finish on $150,000 cars..
Selectmaz are now in the middle of producing an instructional leaflet including advice on the lights required.
As I said its a great shape and could be made into a good looking car.
I have since checked on other kits and it is no worse than many of them.
It is light construction compared with some factory kits, but may be relatively rigid once on and supported by brackets.
The points to be noted are:-
1. It does require the bumper support bar to be cut back and welded together again due to the position of the lights, this does reduce safety from a collision at the front corners.
2. The existing rubber trim can not be used at the front. This may not be of concern to some as many RX-7 owners prefer to remove all trim.
I was hoping to have a more stock finish. It might be possible to heat mould a back corner trim around the new front shape.
There is a problem, at least on mine, of a gap at the sides of about 2-3mm which could be filled with putty. Its a personal decision as to whether such a ridge distracts from the vehicle. If the trim is in place this would be hidden.
Its a great shape and looks great from a distance, that is why I bought it. But as a person said on another thread dealing with body kits, most of them are made for race purposes and are designed to break off easy.
I might have spent more time having the kit fitted but the paint shop was giving pressure to get the car finished. We actually used another bumper support bar to cut up and measure for fit plus manufactoring other support brackets.
Selectmaz have always given me good support and advice, and its good to see a firm coming back to deal with concerns, after all it is the first one sold and there is always going to be some problems. I have not duceided against it but ran out of time to acheive the standard I wanted. Thus it may become a non-commercial project by working up a mirror finish at home while listening to good music on a headset!~
I am really looking forward to getting the car back as it has received a full body and trim job, even right down to getting new keys cut and having the seat bushes replaced! It is costing but not as much as you loose stepping into a new car. I think the Gen 1 is a great classic car.
The air dam was sent to me as the first one sold, in rather a hurry as my car was already in the paint shop to bring it up to show standards. The place normally works on diplomatic BMWs and Mercs producing a very standard finish, and high cost! Thus, the paint shop was commenting against luxury finish on $150,000 cars..
Selectmaz are now in the middle of producing an instructional leaflet including advice on the lights required.
As I said its a great shape and could be made into a good looking car.
I have since checked on other kits and it is no worse than many of them.
It is light construction compared with some factory kits, but may be relatively rigid once on and supported by brackets.
The points to be noted are:-
1. It does require the bumper support bar to be cut back and welded together again due to the position of the lights, this does reduce safety from a collision at the front corners.
2. The existing rubber trim can not be used at the front. This may not be of concern to some as many RX-7 owners prefer to remove all trim.
I was hoping to have a more stock finish. It might be possible to heat mould a back corner trim around the new front shape.
There is a problem, at least on mine, of a gap at the sides of about 2-3mm which could be filled with putty. Its a personal decision as to whether such a ridge distracts from the vehicle. If the trim is in place this would be hidden.
Its a great shape and looks great from a distance, that is why I bought it. But as a person said on another thread dealing with body kits, most of them are made for race purposes and are designed to break off easy.
I might have spent more time having the kit fitted but the paint shop was giving pressure to get the car finished. We actually used another bumper support bar to cut up and measure for fit plus manufactoring other support brackets.
Selectmaz have always given me good support and advice, and its good to see a firm coming back to deal with concerns, after all it is the first one sold and there is always going to be some problems. I have not duceided against it but ran out of time to acheive the standard I wanted. Thus it may become a non-commercial project by working up a mirror finish at home while listening to good music on a headset!~
I am really looking forward to getting the car back as it has received a full body and trim job, even right down to getting new keys cut and having the seat bushes replaced! It is costing but not as much as you loose stepping into a new car. I think the Gen 1 is a great classic car.
