TII FMIC Piping Help for FB
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TII FMIC Piping Help for FB
Calling out the FB 13bt guys for a question on FMIC piping.
I'm in the middle of my s5 TII swap and I'm trying to gauge how I want to run intercooler piping for an FMIC. I was wondering if anyone could post pictures or kind of steer me in the right direction as to what works well regarding sizing of an intercooler, piping sizes, and where to buy a decent kit that would work well for this type of application since their obviously is no kit made specifically for this type of swap.
Thanks,
Ian
I'm in the middle of my s5 TII swap and I'm trying to gauge how I want to run intercooler piping for an FMIC. I was wondering if anyone could post pictures or kind of steer me in the right direction as to what works well regarding sizing of an intercooler, piping sizes, and where to buy a decent kit that would work well for this type of application since their obviously is no kit made specifically for this type of swap.
Thanks,
Ian
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Calling out the FB 13bt guys for a question on FMIC piping.
I'm in the middle of my s5 TII swap and I'm trying to gauge how I want to run intercooler piping for an FMIC. I was wondering if anyone could post pictures or kind of steer me in the right direction as to what works well regarding sizing of an intercooler, piping sizes, and where to buy a decent kit that would work well for this type of application since their obviously is no kit made specifically for this type of swap.
Thanks,
Ian
I'm in the middle of my s5 TII swap and I'm trying to gauge how I want to run intercooler piping for an FMIC. I was wondering if anyone could post pictures or kind of steer me in the right direction as to what works well regarding sizing of an intercooler, piping sizes, and where to buy a decent kit that would work well for this type of application since their obviously is no kit made specifically for this type of swap.
Thanks,
Ian
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No "kits" are available for our RX7. Your best bet is to Ebay some intercooler piping. 2.5" is fine unless you are running a turbo the size of the Death Star.
You can go in and out on one side of the engine bay, or relocate your battery and go in one side and out the other.
You can go in and out on one side of the engine bay, or relocate your battery and go in one side and out the other.
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It is quite simple really:
a.) Relocate your battery behind the passenger seat
b.) Buy and NPR intercooler ($100 or ebay or this forum) as they are an OEM item and very reliable and good quality
c.) Buy ebay or other piping
d.) Buy a Greddy or other elbow to attach to the throttle body
The NPR intercooler fits PERFECTLY above the SE oil cooler (which you should be running anyway). Measure where the pipes would need to go through on the radiator support and cut it out with a dremel tool.
I can go take some pictures this weekend since I will be working on my car.
a.) Relocate your battery behind the passenger seat
b.) Buy and NPR intercooler ($100 or ebay or this forum) as they are an OEM item and very reliable and good quality
c.) Buy ebay or other piping
d.) Buy a Greddy or other elbow to attach to the throttle body
The NPR intercooler fits PERFECTLY above the SE oil cooler (which you should be running anyway). Measure where the pipes would need to go through on the radiator support and cut it out with a dremel tool.
I can go take some pictures this weekend since I will be working on my car.
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i went the cheap route i got some abs plastic pipes frome home depot and got 2 elbows from a turbo volvo along with my volvo intercooler, works really well. its a cheap alternative until i can get my welding tank and regulator filled and bought so i can tweak my starion intercooler. then again i also have a mariah front airdamn on mine also.
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It is quite simple really:
a.) Relocate your battery behind the passenger seat
b.) Buy and NPR intercooler ($100 or ebay or this forum) as they are an OEM item and very reliable and good quality
c.) Buy ebay or other piping
d.) Buy a Greddy or other elbow to attach to the throttle body
The NPR intercooler fits PERFECTLY above the SE oil cooler (which you should be running anyway). Measure where the pipes would need to go through on the radiator support and cut it out with a dremel tool.
I can go take some pictures this weekend since I will be working on my car.
a.) Relocate your battery behind the passenger seat
b.) Buy and NPR intercooler ($100 or ebay or this forum) as they are an OEM item and very reliable and good quality
c.) Buy ebay or other piping
d.) Buy a Greddy or other elbow to attach to the throttle body
The NPR intercooler fits PERFECTLY above the SE oil cooler (which you should be running anyway). Measure where the pipes would need to go through on the radiator support and cut it out with a dremel tool.
I can go take some pictures this weekend since I will be working on my car.
I understand generally what I'm doing, and since I'm using the stock s5 turbo for now, I'm going to stick with 2.5 piping and was looking at the ebay kits as a viable option. I guess I was asking because I'm trying to go about this in an affordable fashion since I don't need a specifically fit kit for an FC FMIC.
In regards to the SE Oil Cooler, I'm actually mounting my s5 FMOC that came with my engine, since my FB is originally a beehive model. Would it have any fitment issues with that NPR intercooler?
And my last question, where can I buy a decent aftermarket TB inlet that will work with an s5 TB (from what i understood, the Greddy elbow only works with FD UIM's and TB's) Just a straight off the TB hat would be fine, but I don't want to buy a $400 kit for just the hat and have to cut up tons of piping to make it work.
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Sorry man, I got busy today and didn't have time to take pics. I won't be near my car again for about 3 more days, I'll try to get the pics then. I'll also check my photobucket, I might have some old pics on there. If so, I'll post them in about an hour.
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I am unsure of the FC oil cooler dimentions, so I can't specificly speak to that. but I do not see why it couldn't work.
The Greddy elbow has been discontinued for FC's so you have to buy one used. brouse ebay and the FC parts section, they are always for sale. I got mine in the FC section for $80 shipped. Yes, you can make a more "ghetto" setup, but the elbow is nice and has the proper turn radius.
I will take some pictures on Sunday when I work on my car. I'm currently working and traveling so I can't just take some. It looks very similiar to the pics posted above--just not as clean. The pigges difference is that the above poster removed the radiator supports, and made hisown brackets. My intercooler pipes are just like his, except that the stock support was retained and a hole was cut for the pipes. KDR actually did the job, and it is very clean.
With the setup I have, the engine runs very cool as all of the air is forced through the radiator. I acutaully had to buy an aftermarket water temp gauge as I did not trust the stock one as it stayed on cool and I never knew when my engine was warmed up.
I found a couple pics even though I have changed out some of the piping since then and put the BOV on the other side.
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Thanks for the pictures Dan, I've seen your widebody around on the boards some and I'm a big fan of your work.
From what I understand the FD UIM and TB does provide better performance, but I don't have much knowledge other than the basic searches on the forums I did. For me, I feel like it will be slightly overkill since I don't plan on getting a turbo any bigger than a hybrid stage 1. However, it looks really nice Dan.
From what I understand the FD UIM and TB does provide better performance, but I don't have much knowledge other than the basic searches on the forums I did. For me, I feel like it will be slightly overkill since I don't plan on getting a turbo any bigger than a hybrid stage 1. However, it looks really nice Dan.
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FD UIM runners are larger (because the FD has much bigger ports than earlier Rx-7 4 port motors) and so is the TB. The runners are longer than the T2's and the plenum volume is smaller, which is more optimized for mid range power.
The Greddy elbow is actually 70mm (same as 2.75") which matches the size of piping that normally comes on Greddy intercooler kits. I have an FC Greddy elbow and FMIC, and they are 70mm.
The Greddy elbow is actually 70mm (same as 2.75") which matches the size of piping that normally comes on Greddy intercooler kits. I have an FC Greddy elbow and FMIC, and they are 70mm.
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FD UIM runners are larger (because the FD has much bigger ports than earlier Rx-7 4 port motors) and so is the TB. The runners are longer than the T2's and the plenum volume is smaller, which is more optimized for mid range power.
The Greddy elbow is actually 70mm (same as 2.75") which matches the size of piping that normally comes on Greddy intercooler kits. I have an FC Greddy elbow and FMIC, and they are 70mm.
The Greddy elbow is actually 70mm (same as 2.75") which matches the size of piping that normally comes on Greddy intercooler kits. I have an FC Greddy elbow and FMIC, and they are 70mm.
Numbers and actual data so that people like me can make an informed decision to perform the swap in order to gain and estimated X horsepower.
Attached are some more pictures that I took in a dark garage this freezing weekend. As you can see, I have made some changed to my piping and I'm now running 3" piping all the way around.
Pictures look like crap, but you get the point.
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